And barely even tries.

A good in-depth discussion of media bias in political reporting, or why is it that Biden voters are encouraged to understand an empathize with Trump voters but Trump voters are never asked to understand Biden voters?

  • YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.worldEnglish
    419·
    11 months ago

    Are there Biden voters or just Anti-Trump voters? The Biden Administration has been dealing with inflation that just now is leveling out. While his policies match what the majority of voters want, the voters don’t want him. The downside is there is no one better to choose. Essentially it is meh Biden is better than anything the GOP has to offer.

    • ProfessorZhu@lemmy.world
      614·
      11 months ago

      There’s been places that I really dislike Biden on, but overall he’s been a pretty good president

      • YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.worldEnglish
        323·
        11 months ago

        I have no problem with Biden. He has had a good administration. The media likes shiny objects though. This is once again why we need the Fairness Doctrine back with a 21st century spin on it including all media.

    • 0110010001100010@kbin.social
      331·
      11 months ago

      I obviously don’t speak for everybody but my Biden vote in 2020 was very much a not-Trump vote. And if Trump end up against Biden in 2024 I will make that same vote a second time. Like you said, I’ll take a meh Biden over the crazies in the GQP.

        • be_excellent_to_each_other@kbin.social
          303·
          11 months ago

          I’d vote for Biden over anyone the GOP is running.

          I’ll die of old age before I vote R for any position at any level. They can’t possibly reform themselves enough to be trusted in my lifetime.

          If I see an R candidate running who doesn’t seem like a whackjob I’m going to assume it’s a trojan horse. They spent the past several years trying to convince me that they are a bunch of crazy bigots who will destroy civil liberties, destroy our educational system, and ban any history or books that they deem as undesirable. I have chosen to believe them.

          • Silverseren@kbin.social
            71·
            11 months ago

            Gotta watch out for the trojan horses running on the Democrat side as well. RFK Jr. being the perfect example.

          • dragontamer@lemmy.worldEnglish
            21·
            11 months ago

            The Democrats went from racist southerners in 1960s to the modern progressives who literally drafted Civil Rights laws by the end of that decade.

            The only thing that’s certain in politics is change. Its surprising how quickly viewpoints can change, even for large, established parties.

            • be_excellent_to_each_other@kbin.social
              61·
              11 months ago

              The Democrats went from racist southerners in 1960s to the modern progressives who literally drafted Civil Rights laws by the end of that decade.

              I’ve chosen this link about the Southern Strategy because it will both debunk the overly simplistic view of it that is normally put forth, and also will debunk the usual attempts by conservatives to say it didn’t happen.

              I’ve cherrypicked this bit from its closing paragraph because I think it gets at the meat of this argument, but I also acknowledge here that the overall point of the article is that we can’t ahem blame the current state of the Republican party entirely on the Southern Strategy and racism.

              While the claim that the appeal of the parties on the basis of racial issues switched following the passage of the Civil Rights Act is true enough, there is a greater truth that conservatives who resist this claim often make which deserves to be acknowledged: the South changed its racial attitudes over time. It has changed, just as America has changed. Whether its overarching racial culture has changed nearly enough to meet the higher aspirations of our ideals of racial equality today is a separate question. But the South that the Republican Party represents today is not the South of George Wallace and the neo-segregationists.

              Edited to add: And also, if Republicans stop being the party of hurting people I’ll stop treating them like the party of hurting people. I stand by my original statement though. It’s so exceptionally unlikely as to be within the realm of fiction that they will do such a thing during my natural lifespan.

            • athos77@kbin.social
              21·
              11 months ago

              It’s more like parties switched bases; see Nixon’s Southern Strategy:

              As the civil rights movement and dismantling of Jim Crow laws in the 1950s and 1960s visibly deepened existing racial tensions in much of the Southern United States, Republican politicians such as presidential candidate Richard Nixon and Senator Barry Goldwater developed strategies that successfully contributed to the political realignment of many white, conservative voters in the South who had traditionally supported the Democratic Party. It also helped to push the Republican Party much more to the right relative to the 1950s. By winning all of the south a presidential candidate could obtain the presidency with minimal support elsewhere.

    • OldFartPhil@lemm.eeOPEnglish
      224·
      11 months ago

      The article addresses that. Because the media doesn’t report on Biden supporters, the public gets the impression that no one likes him much. I also think approval ratings are not contextualized well, because you rarely see how many people who disapprove of Biden’s presidency are right-wing and how many are leftists.

      From a personal perspective, while I was not a reluctant Biden voter (would have never voted for Trump), he was far from the top of my list in the 2020 primary. I think, considering the obstacles he’s faced, Joe has been a much better president that I expected. That’s in spite of Republicans ratfucking student loan relief and robust electoral reform.

        • alvvayson@lemmy.world
          151·
          11 months ago

          Not an American, but I think Biden has been the best US president since at least Clinton, and perhaps even since Carter.

          (Although I do agree he is too old… Does the democratic party really not have a younger equally capable candidate?)

          Obama was a very popular and charismatic guy, but I think he kind of squandered his popularity and failed to achieve results.

          Obama wasn’t successful with the ACA, or Iraq/Afghanistan or the Supreme Court. He didn’t even achieve a minimum wage increase after 2009. Didn’t tackle wallstreet.

          He should have been a bit more confrontational and twisted some arms to achieve results.

          Meanwhile Biden is just steamrolling a lot of successes with a razer thin Senate majority.

            • eestileib@sh.itjust.works
              31·
              11 months ago

              Swalwell certainly seems like a dude whose head is attached to his ass, a rare trait in DC.

              The episode where McCarthy said “Call me a coward again and I’ll kick your ass,” to which Swalwell replied “You. Are. A. Coward,” is also pretty endearing, despite his repetition of a gendered insult. (The word wasn’t coward)

        • Hazzia@discuss.tchncs.de
          93·
          11 months ago

          I’ll take a level-headed non-showy president who does what he can to enact his promises over a charismatic mouthpiece any day of the week.

      • Uranium3006@kbin.social
        2·
        11 months ago

        I also think approval ratings are not contextualized well, because you rarely see how many people who disapprove of Biden’s presidency are right-wing and how many are leftists.

        I’m the latter

    • Aesthesiaphilia@kbin.social
      163·
      11 months ago

      I was an anti trump voter in the last go around, but this time I’m voting FOR Biden. He’s done a lot with a bare minimum Senate majority and a hostile supreme court. And I love his unconditional support of Ukraine.

    • garyyo@lemmy.world
      131·
      11 months ago

      My vote for Biden was an anything but trump vote, but given Biden’s current record as president he has my vote again.

      Still not my first choice but we live in a first past the post voting system so gotta take what you can get.

    • eestileib@sh.itjust.works
      51·
      11 months ago

      Biden’s team has handled the war in Ukraine extremely well, building up our European strategic alliances to a level we haven’t seen in decades while avoiding disastrous escalation. A terrible situation but I think he’s handled it better than, say, a first-term Obama or Clinton (let alone GWB) would have.

      IRA & debt ceiling pwnage show he has skilled people working congress too.

      On the minus side, he appointed Merrick Garland, who has been absolutely the wrong man for the job.

    • btaf45@lemmy.world
      42·
      11 months ago

      the voters don’t want him.

      Biden was literally chosen by the voters.

      Are there Biden voters or just Anti-Trump voters?

      Biden rules. Absolutely nobody could have done a better job than Biden on a whole range of issues: Ukraine, jobs, reducing inflation without triggering a recession, covid, student loans, getting liberal policies thru a razor thin Dem majority etc. He has done an outstanding job on all of those things.

    • eksb@programming.devEnglish
      64·
      11 months ago

      There is no one better to choose because the media and the DNC keep telling us there is no one better to choose and any time a possible person is mentioned everybody just says “They don’t have Biden’s name recognition so they can’t win.”.