I mean assuming this us real, i get that you feel like that was “justice” in the moment and all but realistically nothing was won here. If you can only make someone behave how you want with threat of physical violence, then you dont win anything. The next time this asshole finds himself in that kinda situation, without some guy to save the day, he will probably immediatly get violent, because why wouldnt he, if thats the answer to everything… Ofcourse in the big picture you sometimes have to resort to violence, but it should be directed at the people with the ability to greatly change things, that refuse to change them. Like politicians, corporations, etc
There’s a few situations where people are incorrigible and need to just be cowed into inaction before they hurt people, and then that can be the first step towards changing their mind. Neonazis are the default example for that being that they are primarily power-obsessed.
that can be the first step towards changing their mind
If you actually believe that this situation would do anything but strengthen the assholes trans phobic tendencies, you ought to interact with real people more or something.
sure in an actually dangerous situation it might be necessary, but nobody will actually get violent if there are already a bunch of people opposing them, even non violently. You cant force your thinking on people, they are just humans, it does not work. At some point you have to decide for yourself if you want to solve or simply postpone the problem.
It makes them less likely to act in that immediate situation but it also makes them less likely to try it again, and that’s the important part. If they got away with it in public, they would instead grow bolder and more convinced that they can get away with it and that they have tacit support.
i guess some peoples minds do work like that and would just associate them being an asshole to getting punished for it. However i also know enough people who would have the opposite reaction and simply have a growing pent up hatred and lash out even harder to get back at others for making them look bad or weak or whatever.
I mean assuming this us real, i get that you feel like that was “justice” in the moment and all but realistically nothing was won here. If you can only make someone behave how you want with threat of physical violence, then you dont win anything. The next time this asshole finds himself in that kinda situation, without some guy to save the day, he will probably immediatly get violent, because why wouldnt he, if thats the answer to everything… Ofcourse in the big picture you sometimes have to resort to violence, but it should be directed at the people with the ability to greatly change things, that refuse to change them. Like politicians, corporations, etc
There’s a few situations where people are incorrigible and need to just be cowed into inaction before they hurt people, and then that can be the first step towards changing their mind. Neonazis are the default example for that being that they are primarily power-obsessed.
If you actually believe that this situation would do anything but strengthen the assholes trans phobic tendencies, you ought to interact with real people more or something. sure in an actually dangerous situation it might be necessary, but nobody will actually get violent if there are already a bunch of people opposing them, even non violently. You cant force your thinking on people, they are just humans, it does not work. At some point you have to decide for yourself if you want to solve or simply postpone the problem.
It makes them less likely to act in that immediate situation but it also makes them less likely to try it again, and that’s the important part. If they got away with it in public, they would instead grow bolder and more convinced that they can get away with it and that they have tacit support.
i guess some peoples minds do work like that and would just associate them being an asshole to getting punished for it. However i also know enough people who would have the opposite reaction and simply have a growing pent up hatred and lash out even harder to get back at others for making them look bad or weak or whatever.
Okay, but what if they’d been able to bully a trans woman unopposed? They’re still going to do it as well.
So if most people won’t try again after getting cowed, but a small number will do it no matter what, we should try and make them afraid to try again