• Soup@lemmy.cafe
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    4 hours ago

    The Green Party was never to be taken seriously by anyone that knows better. It’s always been a spoiler party. This is evident in the fact that seemingly none of the Green Party candidates do jack shit three years out of every four. And when the election cycle comes. They just projectile-shit left and right depending on who’s paying.

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    As a firm believer in the need for a strong labor party to struggle for the rights of working people as an absolute bare minimum to advancing the struggle for human rights, individual freedom and working class power (while it isn’t by default a guarantee for any of those things as it would require the participation of growing masses to even begin to take these problems on,) this party doesn’t exist in this election. Principles don’t count for shit, only power matters. Before engaging in any safe state strategies, better make sure your math is impeccable since the Republicans can lose the popular vote and still win the election. We can build power for the future, but keep Trump out for now.

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    4 hours ago

    I wouldn’t worry about it. I’m told that 3rd party voters are too small a bloc to bother trying to earn their votes.

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      Do you think she started out earnest and got co-opted?
      Has she been a willing accomplice since day one?

      To sit at a fancy gala dinner with the very definition of what the hard right salivates to be, then to declare that both parties are the same… that is something… that takes some fucking chutzpah.

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      7 hours ago

      Jill disappears on November 6th and reappears 3 years and 10 months later. Like clockwork.

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    9 hours ago

    That sounds too much like work and not enough like bitching.

    Makes me wish we had some serious third parties in this country, and not two grifting perennial presidential-election also-rans

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      The lack of viable ones is less a result of effort on their part or desire for them among the electorate, and more to do with the nature of our voting system. Its hard to develop a viable third party when the system one is operating in mathematically guarantees that only two parties can be seriously competitive with eachother in nationally significant elections, and those parties are already established. They can be competitive in local elections that the larger ones dont put as much effort into, but the only times theyve ever gotten to the presidency have been the couple times when one of the two major parties basically collapses and gets replaced with a different one.

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        They can be competitive in local elections that the larger ones dont put as much effort into,

        That’s my point, though. The two biggest third parties in this country aren’t competitive in local elections, because they put even less effort in local elections as the two major parties do. They make a performative shot at the presidency every four years, and that’s about fucking it. The Libertarians are slightly better (god, what a sentence to gag on) on this than the Greens, but not by much.

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    9 hours ago

    Just because youre too lazy to pay attention to third parties on non election years does not mean theyre not working.

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      8 hours ago

      False equivalency. This is, in fact, an election year. And pushing a presidential spoiler hack backed by Russia isn’t a great look anyway.

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      8 hours ago

      They’re the ones saying voting against Harris is the only power they have to change her policies.