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Oh wow shocking, people actually cared more about usability than trashy feature? That’s unheard of
I like AI and my phone to be separate. Chatgpt is just an app, it shouldn’t be a core feature
Can we please stop calling LLMs artificial intelligence?
No. Strictly and technically speaking, LLMs absolutely fall under the category of AI. You’re thinking of AGI, which is a subset of AI, and which LLMs will be a necessary but insufficient component of.
I’m an AI Engineer; I’ve taken to, in my circles, calling AI “Algorithmic Intelligence” rather than “Artificial Intelligence.” It’s far more fitting term for what is happening. But until the Yanns and Ngs and Hintons of the field start calling it that, we’re stuck with it.
Where intelligence in spitting out samples from big data vaguely related to prompt?
Let’s just settle on SI, Schrödiger intelligence.
I like your definition. Algorithmic intelligence fits much better. And thanks for giving me a rabbit hole (AGI) to dive into.
Approximate Intelligence fits just as well me thinks
I know more humans that fit that description than language models.
I see that
If you don’t think this counts as AI, can you give us an example of some function or behavior that you would consider AI?
Reasoning, sentience, and the ability, over time, to improve. There’s more, but that’s the top three.
How about making a phone that’s a whole millimeter thicker just to make the glass thick and strong enough that it won’t break if you drop it?
Great idea! Unless of course the replacement of parts and broken phones is a core part of the business model.
Rubbish. If my phone isn’t so thin that it can double as a knife, it’s not worth buying.
Even if it were thicker I’d still slap on a sacrificial glass screen protector atop it. I’ve dropped my phone only a handful of times, and so far have only ever broken the protector.
Just slap a shield on it, there’s your added thickness and better drop resistance all in one!
There are a few ruggedized phones out there. I bought some cheap Oukitel phones to use as an order pad in restaurant I used to run, because I was fed up with two waitresses dropping and breaking pads. When I sold the business, I kept one. I use it mainly in my boat, as GPS, plotter, speedometer, weather…
The thing drops, gets wet, handled without care.
These phones exist. They are not top performance dogs, but can be quite decent. Why arent they in the front line? Because demand
I think the battery system that’s best for everyone would be user-replaceable batteries. That way you can have an extra battery on hand to swap in as needed, or even extra-capacity batteries that make your phone a little thicker for people who are okay with that.
Those of us who do actually prefer thinner, lighter phones can still have them (maybe with a slight increase in thickness to accommodate the attachment mechanisms). Plus bigger batteries are a huge waste of resources if the capacity isn’t going to be used.
that was a thing in the early days. most clamshells had em and a few flat panels (called candybars)
First few galaxy phones. Pretty much all of the first few generations of smart phone except apple
yep. first one i had with a non removable battery was the lg v30. battery was removable but you voided the warranty to do it and it required opening the entire case with a knife edge
In fairness the removable battery came with a pretty significant tradeoff.
Water resistance.
Many would happily take a reduction in water resistance for replaceable batteries, the problem is no one gives us the choice
EDIT: inaccurate statement. Fairphone offers removable batteries
There are phones that give you this choice. The Fairphones for example. The back cover is easily removable and you can pop out the battery like in the ol’ days. It has an IP55 as far as I know.
That sounds sweet, I’ll consider Fairphone once my current samsung dies its not so noble death
At that point I think many would just get a decent powerbank. I’d prefer a larger capacity battery, 7000-10000mah even if the phone is slightly heavier and bigger. Especially for travel.
I disagree, swappable battery > power bank.
Used to have a swappable battery. It was great, you could have like 3 of em and instantly be able to get back to 100% without having to be attached to a cord. I wish I could do the same for my SteamDeck now, it would be great :'(yeah and with a swappable system with a couple battery sizes you could do that. and I could choose a slimmer battery.
I used to have a power bank case for an old phone that had a weak battery. Battery got low I would just turn on the power bank in the case and charge the phone. It doubled the thickness of the phone but I don’t think it really bothered me at the time. This was the Amazon fire phone from 2014? You could get them for $100 and get a free year of prime. I rooted it and installed some custom os on it.
yeah I agree those are a good option too, but that doesn’t solve the issue of replacing a worn out battery. that’s why I think we need swappable batteries.
yeah but you can’t set inflate your stock value based on hype about battery life.
people forget that these features aren’t for users. it’s for idiots who invest in ridiculous shit hoping it to be the next big thing.
They’re pushing AI so hard but most people just see it as a gimmicky thing. The only people who care are the investors.
Also I want my OS to be an actual OS with root access. I want Linux in particular.
Like you know, you can setup a file share to back up files. You can back up your phone and get a new one easily. If you lost a phone you can bring it back. Your files organized the way you want and not some things here and done things there like the apps want.
No! I don’t care about battery! I want to become more dependent on advertising companies to arrange my daily life!
I really hope the AI hype dies off
We are talking about a very particular branch of AI called LLMs or better know as “chat bots”. Every other AI is usually very useful and have been in your phone forever.
The features customers actually want vs what the shareholders tell them they want.
Give me a phone that’s 1.5 cm thick (before the camera bump) and lasts two days and I’ll buy fucking 10 of them.
JUST STOP. MAKING. THEM. THINNER.
They have. The iphone 6 was I think the thinnest iphone at 6.9mm thick. The X was 7.7mm, and the 15 is 7.8mm thick. And at least for my use I do get 2 days of battery life. Even with the 80% charge cap.
No, they want a thicker phone, not thinner
Overall phones have been getting chunkier, larger too. I dislike the size, but like the added battery life from the thickness is nice. My pixel 8 is perfect in both regards for me :)
Edit: just saw the sub. Don’t really know a lot about apple phones specifically.
“The only thing we bothered changing in the new model is we added a robot that hoovers even more of your data and then lies to you confidently!”
Smartphone buyers care more about that thing that they’ve been begging for, for years? You don’t say… And mobile phone manufacturers are again and still going to ignore what people actually want in favor of expensive and non functional vaporware, like they always do?
You don’t say!
I still would take an extra mm for more battery life. At this point it’s no difference if it’s a bit thinner.
