Do people actually like all of the overdesigned clutter to the point where it makes them not want to switch sites?

To me, the stripped down clarity on Lemmy is a feature. I remember back in the day when people flocked to Facebook from MySpace, in large part because they were sick of eye gouging customized pages and just wanted a simple, consistent interface. The content, not the buttons to click on it are the draw right?

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    I think the more they bitch about Reddit alternatives, the more people will be reminded that there are alternatives to Reddit.

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    “The hosts are too lazy” says the person whining about it without doing anything.

    Try switching to a platform you’ve never used before and making a community out of nothing, or host the Lemmy instance and be forced to deal with thousands of new users daily. Lazy my ass…

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    If you don’t like the UI, you can always download a browser extension that change the CSS of the website. However, if this is the main criticism people do to Lemmy, I would say that’s not bad for a relatively new platform

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    The reason I used Reddit is Fun WAS because of its stripped down, bare bones style. I only wanted to read thoughts and opinions, and choose to view images/video/ads when I wanted to. This is absolutely a feature of Jerboa (and Lemmy) for me

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      I don’t know the background of OP so this is just an opinion: I feel that modern UX have become so ubiquitous and streamlined for content consumption that users who aren’t used to old-styled UIs see the lack of “sleek” design as lesser. It works doubly so that users aren’t willing to venture outside of their ecosystems and will put up with anything regardless if it’s detrimental to their experience.

      Compare users of new reddit and the official app vs. users of old reddit and 3PA. I used 3PA because there wasn’t an official app and RiF matched what I was used to. It’s a similar phenomena to Apple users vs Windows/Android. People are just used to a streamlined sleek experience (which to be fair has it’s merits) but to say it’s superior or that the alternative is lesser is a large misstep in thinking.

      It takes effort to go out of your comfort zone but it’s saddening to see users mindlessly, for lack of a better terms, consume

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    I definitely choose my social media based on round edges and opaque tiles. Don’t you? It definitely isn’t for the content or discussion.

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    I’m not really sure, I think some of them might which is weird. Though I think a lot of them are just trying to find reasons to complain about Lemmy because they are addicted to reddit, don’t want to make the switch and they know that if people start leaving Reddit they’re going to have to switch to something else and that scares the shit out of them. So they’re going to complain about Lemmy or the alternatives because they desperately don’t want to lose Reddit, their source of dopamine and fulfillment.

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      Though I think a lot of them are just trying to find reasons to complain about Lemmy because they are addicted to reddit, don’t want to make the switch and they know that if people start leaving Reddit they’re going to have to switch to something else and that scares the shit out of them.

      It sometimes amazes me how opposed to change people can sometimes be. Yeah sure Lemmy is different, but not radically so.

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    “Do people actually like all of the overdesigned clutter?” Hell nah! Polar opposite here.

    I absolutely hate it when sites randomly redesign to look “modern” and “hip” or whatever you want to call it. Forcefully adding flashy, colorful stuff that you can’t turn off again or opt out of is a surefire way for me to dislike the site in question immediatly. Emojis, animated smileys, glitter effects, neon-colored letters, autoplay-animations, and worst of all: sound effects! Nope. Nu-uh. Get that sh*t away from me. I like my black-squared, simple layout and silent browsing experience, thank you very much.

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      I’m just glad it defaults to dark mode. Any site that defaults to light mode can go straight to hell.

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    Dark grays, blues? Squared? Good. I love simplicity! Not to mention, Reddit started out like that too, and among the older wave of users old.reddit was still a favorite for that reason.

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      No kidding. The color scheme is easy on the eyes, and I can digest information easily here much like old reddit. What are they on?

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    Simple and clean UIs are an improvement over what’s now considered “modern web design” meant to manipulate your attention to particular things. It feels like the agency is taken away from the user. I am loving the fediverse for this reason and have been a fan and user of FOSS apps for over a decade because the design goals of the software match the actual use-case of the app without trying to tie you in to something else. No distractions, no advertisements, no walled gardens. Just, here’s the app, here’s the functionality, it’s been delivered. Now use it as you see fit without an ulterior motive from the developer or their investors (or lack thereof.)

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    I prefer clean interfaces and thus far haven’t been disappointed. Just gimme a dark theme option and I’m (mostly) happy.

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    TBF Lemmy UI/UX is horrible. So is Reddit’s IMO, for completely different reasons, but still. It’s a valid criticism, it’s just also not an endorsement of Reddit.

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      Yeah, Lemmy is still a bit rough around the edges in a lot of ways. I hope the surge in users brings some frontend devs over.

      The new apps should help a lot, but it’s still a bit of a pain to use on PC. I also have issues with the feed just going wild and poping in new posts so fast I can’t read anything on the web.

      Lemmy needs work, but I’m not here for the design. I’m here to wrestle control away from corporations. Anyone that doesn’t understand that is a bot.

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        I also have issues with the feed just going wild and poping in new posts so fast I can’t read anything on the web.

        Oh yeah I saw that last night too. Lemmy is relatively new, and will get better in time. I’m excited for sync to be released. Slide might get re-purposed for lemmy too.

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    There’s a lot of bullshit being posted about Lemmy over there, but lots of folks spreading the good word of the Fediverse as well. I’m doing my part until Bacon Reader stops working.

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      Dude what that’s that’s gotta be a reddit plant or something lmao, the main nsfw instance, lemmynsfw, two weeks in banned anything that depicts someone underage, even manga and other animated mediums, like people are self regulating these things to NOT have cp

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    Reddit’s UI and performance was pretty horrible for me in the browser. That being said, I find Lemmy’s UI and performance worse. 😢

    They definitely need to hire a real designer and work on performance. It’s pretty bad when I try to subscribe to a community on lemmy.ml from lemmy.world. It takes like minutes for me for the request to go through.

    The contrast between white and lime green is pretty bad too. The design makes the app feel cheap. That matters for a lot of people.

    I’m hopeful Lemmy will get better over time. 👍

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      Everything looks better on Jerboa. I went back on the browser to see what you’re talking about and immediately saw what you’re talking about!

      Shouldn’t be too hard to change the CSS, but I wish this isn’t the default. Even grey would look better.

      I hope the devs check these posts out.

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        I honestly have a hard time using it outside of Jerboa. It’s not just UI, but functionality issues as well. I don’t blame people for being turned off. It’s a big part of the reason why I don’t think we’ll see large scale adoption. And I don’t even think the current way things are set up can handle large scale.

        Lemmy is a good experiment, but I’m not sure this form of federation is going to work.

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          In FOSS there’s two kinds of people. Those who contribute to the change they want to see in the world, and people who bitch about unimportant things.

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      Lemmy hosters don’t need to use the official UI, it’s just the only one that currently exists, we just need a better front end developed by someone

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    … have they seen the reddit apps?

    Also color customization is definitely a post MVP thing usually. This platform is not mature