"If you don’t vote Blue, then it’s your fault for the genocide of the Palestinian people in the imaginary future inside of my head where a Republican President backs an ongoing genocide rather than our incumbent genocide-backing Democratic President. "
“You can’t expect Joe to magically stop enabling genocide overnight! He needs more time to stop enabling the genocide he’s enabling! It’s a big and difficult change to make, as we’ve always enabled this genocide!”
“Remember that time when the Cheeto said something stupid? Haha let’s make a joke about the Cheeto conducting a nuclear holocaust against the most oppressed people in the world, who have already been THREATENED WITH THIS!”
“The Dems would need an even larger majority over the Republicans to take any action against the largest recipient of our foreign aid spending.”
Is this not the shit they’re saying?
I wish democrats would win a supermajority in every branch of government just to watch liberals twisted themselves into knots to come up with a reason why they still aren’t doing anything good.
Ughhhh sweaty do you know there’s a senator from Arizona whose a Republican? I don’t know how you expect Joe to get anything done with that sorta obstruction. maybe if the damn families had gotten off their butts and
in AZ we wouldn’t be in this situation. Maybe next timeUnder Obama, Democrats had 2 years during which they held a working majority, and for a period of 74 days they held a supermajority WHILE, controlling the Supreme Court and Presidency.
They could have passed anything and they did nothing. On purpose.
I have seen zero evidence that Trump would be any different from Genocide Joe on this issue.
From OP:
The Biden administration has been doing everything in their power to reign in Israel, push for ceasefire, and negotiate deals to save hostages. But sure, he’s totally “pro-warcrimes.”
He’s done so much to obtain a ceasefire that his leadership was the only one to veto a ceasefire at the UN Security Council!
He literally reiterated, again, today, that there absolutely would be no qualifiers on military aid for Isreal.
I would love for a lib to explain to me what a republicans stance would be that could possibly be worse than “do literally whatever you want and we will continue to cut you blank checks.”
Republicans could be mean about it.
If anything it would be better. Blue MAGA would have to pretend they aren’t genocidal and support the protests like they did with BLM until they were in power again. Their hatred for Trump would outweigh their hatred for brown people.
Both parties are less dangerous when they are in opposition to the government. Because whatever administration is in power will undoubtedly pursue imperialist goals while the other party if sufficiently enraged will put up some opposition, not out of principle but out of political contrarianism. Slight differences exist such as Republicans being better at political obstruction, whereas the Democrat base is more likely to go out and protest.
But on the whole i don’t know that it makes much difference who sits in the White House, and in any case i would suggest that in order to impede the ability of the US to do damage around the world there needs to be maximal internal political destabilization in the US. Not allowing any one party to monopolize power for too long is conducive to this, in particular switching administrations frequently while the society as a whole is politically highly polarized.
It takes a new administration time to establish itself, get rid of the other party’s appointees and put its own lackeys into positions of power. This usually gives us about a year time when they are not yet ready to launch major imperialist ventures. Ideally the ruling party should also lack a majority in either house for maximal dysfunction. This should happen at the latest with the midterms, and usually does because both parties are highly averse to keeping their campaign promises to the voters.
The point is that no matter which party is in power the foreign policy will not change, but maybe they can be sufficiently distracted dealing with problems at home.
He would post mean tweets, that’s about it.
TBH- for all his support for Israel, I can’t help but even think that Trump would probably be more measured- more pragmatic- in this regard. Biden and the other establishment neolibs/neocons are ghouls who are banking on cashing out, the end of AmeriKKKa or nuclear armageddon be damned- Trump for all his own derangement and corruption at least seems like a nationalist of some sort who might try to hit the brakes for pragmatism’s sake if nothing else- in Palestine, definitely in Russia- and hell, probably even with China.
I pretty much agree with what this article says about Trump. The topic of the article is centered around Trump vs NATO but you can apply it to “Israel” just as well:
Trump hasn’t a clue about how vital NATO is for U.S. imperialism. He only sees dollar signs in his eyes. His threats to pull the U.S. out of NATO are the vain words of an American narcissist who has no idea about how U.S. imperial power projection works. Trump is not a pro-peace American leader. He is a penny-pinching imperialist on the cheap. If he somehow stumbles into jeopardizing NATO relations, be assured he will be straitjacketed by the deep state.
If he does end up doing something with a net positive outcome it will be because he is too dumb to understand/manage the empire and too egotistical to allow others to do it for him. And even then the entrenched state apparatus would probably not allow him to damage the empire’s interests in any serious way, whether he would do so accidentally or not. I don’t put much stock at all in his supposed nationalism, i think like all capitalists he simply uses the language of nationalism to fool the gullible.
Honest talk here though is- IMO, Trump is the best shot the US has at the moment, for a (relatively) graceful (not all that graceful, it’s still AmeriKKKa after all) and peaceful decline. Leaving NATO, restraining Israel, and doing all the other things necessary to dismantle the rot of the empire is a crucial part of that- I agree it would be largely from ignorance and greed, but in these circumstances- it still be overwhelmingly to the benefit of the world, and even the west.
And far be it from me to play the “he’s a businessman” card like as if he’s any particularly competent one- but he knows how to play nice enough when needed- with Russia, with India, with even North Korea- and if needed, surely with China and the rest of BRICS and the non-white, non-western world. A blundering asshole with no idea of the real workings of empire is if nothing else, surely better- even for his own country- than the warmongers pushing for WW3 to maintain white, western hegemony, with no care if the world burns down in the process (as either way they profit).
Not saying all this in support of Trump, that said- not that I could support him anyways (Canadian) but we both agree that his “net positive” actions (and the net positive results of his inaction in certain things, as well) are not out of any semblance of human decency, but rather due to a combination of ignorance and pragmatism- and his attempts at, say, pulling out of Syria were sabotaged by the deep state in the past. But I do actually see him as an (unintentionally) far lesser evil, albeit one I’d not support either way.
I am also just an observer to what is going on in US politics (not from Canada but from the other side of the ocean), and i think he has a good chance of winning the next elections simply due to how disastrously bad Biden has been as president (not that Trump was much better but Americans have a very short memory span, plus a large part of the electorate just don’t give a shit about objective performance, they want someone who talks like them and who validates their feelings). And then we will see what happens. I hope you’re right but my bet is that the deep state will continue to do their thing one way or another regardless who is president.
Unless they mess with the election somehow (don’t think they did against Trump in 2020, though I don’t blame those doubting either)- something that honestly has a very good chance of happening this time around- I think he’ll win.
Trump’s win back in 2016 was perhaps the most “democratic thing” I’d seen come out of the US if you ask me- AmeriKKKans choosing someone who truly represented themselves (often the worst of themselves, peak “ugly American,” but still), and also choosing a somewhat independent (perhaps better described as, somewhat unrestrained) candidate over the near universally repugnant ghoul (for anyone who isn’t similarly a ghoul) that was Clinton. And his term was, for all its disasters- in better circumstances than these past 4 years, simply for how bad things clearly have gotten for the majority of people. In truth though- for performance, I’d have argued the bar was in hell in the Trump era (it was), but Biden in many ways, other than token support of women’s and LGBT rights and such issues, honestly is probably worse. His foreign policy is definitely infinitely worse, that’s for sure, and his economic policy strikes me as little better.
Biden’s behavior honestly makes me suspect the game plan is hegemony or bust (with the “bust” scenario featuring- possibly start WW3, definitely let the US economically collapse, and have the establishment elites flee to the Caribbean and NZ after finally plundering their own country for all it’s worth- basically the same kind of plan Ferdinand Marcos or a whole slew of other western-backed dictators have had throughout history, or that Zelensky, Ing-wen, and possibly Netanyahu definitely have nowadays).
It amazes me how many of you dumbasses really think Trump is the same as Biden.
You’re right, Biden has been materially worse and killed way more people.
“Leftist” endorses Trump and his open fascism is not what I expected today.
You liberal genocide defenders are beyond parody and beyond redemption. Don’t you have another SS veteran to applaud, and another ten thousand kids to slaughter in Gaza? Absolutely brainbroken.
😏 erm, you stoopid little tankies, 🤓🤓🤓 don’t you know that actually we have to vote for the lesser of two evils? Don’t you know not voting for biden is the same as voting for hitler? 😏😏😏😏
Biden and Israel have already dropped enough explosives on Gaza to equal two atomic bombs, and they haven’t stopped.
