• Cyrus Draegur@lemm.ee
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    4 months ago

    we could have had Bernie, except Warren was a backstabbing scumbag. oh well. we got what we deserved: suffering.

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      If you mean her rhetoric, she was just playing the game of politics, and I don’t fault her for that.

      If you mean not dropping out after it was apparent the moderate candidates were going to coalesce behind Biden, yeah, fuck her.

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      4 months ago

      That backstab is why I now vote against her in her Senate primaries. It’s deeply frustrating, because until that point, I really did think she was one of the best possibilities for being a sane and effective presidential candidate.

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        I would still vote for her, given her voting record and policy proposals she supports/ed, but I will say the $40 I donated to her campaign are the only political donations I’ve ever regretted making.

        I could not have a beer with her, either I’d be thinking about bringing it up the entire time. Actually, I would have a beer with her just to ask her what the hell happened? How does she feel about her legacy? What did it feel like to be the OG Fetterman?

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          Honestly at this point I would suck it up and vote for her too u_u

          The Democrat party ironically won’t have any reason to actually compete UNTIL the GOP dies completely because they would be forced to confront their internal progressive vs chud factions, which would split into their own two new political parties.

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            In the general? Absolutely. But that’s a low bar.

            If she was the most compelling primary candidate? Also, likely. Also, still a low bar.

            But as an expression of my deep and fundamental dissatisfaction with how she kow-towed to the DNC leadership, I don’t plan on supporting her tenure in the senate.

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    The left is constantly punching itself in the dick with purity tests. You’d think they’d realize that’s half the reason why they’re constantly spinning their wheels. Liz would be the most left wing president since FDR

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      Wait, liberals have been saying that Biden is the “most left wing president since FDR” for his entire term. Have you all changed your mind?

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        4 months ago

        Biden is a Reagan Republican, and everyone knows it. He’s a better choice than a literal manchild Nazi.

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        I haven’t heard a single instance of this actually occuring.

        I’d bet my last dollar you haven’t either.

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          Yeah, that’s what I’m saying, “smart guy”. So what does it mean to be “the most left wing president since FDR”? If Biden already is that, what does it matter if Warren would be?

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            Lol only conservatives have made the ridiculous statement that “Biden is the most left wing president.” That is hilarious though.

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            Because Warren would have been better…? Your attempt at bad faith questions don’t even make sense. If Warren had been elected, she would have been to the left of Biden, who (according to whatever your source is) is the most left wing since FDR. So how much more so would Warren have been. I think all the dialectics are rotting your brain, comrade.

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              But according to the comment I replied to, she wouldn’t be “better”, she would be the same. That’s my question, which I don’t get how that’s bad faith. If she’s “the most left wing since FDR”, but Biden is already that, in what way is that an argument for her? What point is the comment making? You’re not explaining anything.

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                She would be better and more to the left than Biden. And I consider myself a part of the left. Fred Hampton wasn’t killed because he was a leftist, he was killed because he was a big tent leftist.

                My point is the perfect candidate doesn’t exist and we should fight for the progress we can get with politicians that can win in the current deeply flawed system we are forced to operate in.

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    Democratic primary debates were fire in 2020 Liz Warren slaughtering Bloomberg live on TV was a highlight

    Edit: years

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      2020, you mean. 2016 was Hillary and Bernie in a room with a lock on the door.

      I wasn’t too fond of Warren until she showed some teeth in the 2020 debates. It was a treat to see her take down everyone on stage.

      Shame she [checks notes] didn’t even win her home fucking state in the primaries while the moderates were all throwing their support behind one candidate. Still not sure what level of delusion prompted her to stay in considering that was in-line with what she was polling.

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        The Bernie and Biden debate was what I always thought political debates should be. They presented different viewpoints on how to solve problems and had productive discussion about it.

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    Since 1993, with the exception of Obama (1961), every president was born either 1942 or 1946. Sanders and Warren are both born in the 1940’s too.

    Just stop voting fossils goddammit.

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    This hexbear user is not wrong tho, america’s left dosn’t really serve the people, they team up with the richs.