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I really hope they give us an updated steam controller
Seriously, after having the Steam Deck for a while I’m really upset I missed out on the Steam Controller.
Lol you can have mine if you want. It was pretty good for older PC games that were designed for mouse and keyboard, but it didn’t really work well for more modern titles designed for Xbox or PlayStation controllers. Also, forget about anything fast paced or competitive since missed and keyboard or a conventional controller just blows it out of the water.
Have you tried getting gyro to work? I played CS GO at a pretty high level with it, the aiming was really easy, and spray control felt natural. People lost their mind knowing they were wrecked by a dude with a controller
I think it’s kinda meh tbh. The missing second joystick really makes it hard to use. Maybe I’ve got it configured wrong or something, but I always end up just using a ps4 controller.
yah, they put the joystick on the wrong side.
The fact that they just recently announced more fine-grained categorization on what kind of controllers a game supports makes me think you are probably right.
I would agree except for the 5GHz Wi-Fi. A controller having Wi-Fi is unusual. A controller having 5GHz Wi-Fi is very unusual
The steam controller has a bluetooth mode you can activate upon turning it on.
Bluetooth I understand and makes perfect sense in a controller. Is a very common way to connect a human interface device wirelessly. It is a direct connection and can be very lower power and doesn’t need to transfer alot of data. Not only did the Steam controller support Bluetooth like you mentioned but i believe the recent Xbox and PS5 controllers support Bluetooth as well. I think even the Nintendo Wii controllers were Bluetooth.
WiFi doesn’t make much sense in a controller when Bluetooth already exists. Unless the controller has features that would benefit using WiFI over Bluetooth.
For example I could see maybe an advantage in a steam steaming/steam remote play situation. Instead of a controller going Bluetooth to local device and that local device passing the commands to the remote device, the controller could talk directly over the network to the remote device saving some latency for a more responsive experience. But I don’t know why they would pick 5GHz that is more of a higher bandwidth application as far as i understand. You don’t need that for sending basic controller commands 2.4GHz would be more than enough. Maybe it has something to do with Latency if your 2.4GHz network is congested you could to go with the less congested 5GHz frequency.
Proprietary wifi connections perform better significantly than Bluetooth. Bluetooth’s performance blows.
Can they still call it WiFi if it is a proprietary version of WiFi?
Eh. I’m not sure the implementation details and how high or low level their alterations are. Do they establish connections similarly and just not expose the details and packet formats to end users, or is it completely redone?
But either way, Bluetooth is pretty mediocre for just about anything, and the only way to get good results is to own both sides of the connection, with a console or with a dongle.
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Bluetooth isn’t any more “open”. And more importantly, it’s a horseshit standard with all of bad stability, bad latency, and bad performance.
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Yeah that is a good reason.
And looking at the documentation it just saids it uses the frequency band of WiFi not that it uses WiFI. https://www.rra.go.kr/ko/license/A_b_popup.do?app_no=202317210000256753
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Specific low-power wireless devices (wireless devices for wireless access systems including wireless LAN (5150-5350 MHz, 5470-5850 MHz frequency band))
This is the best summary I could come up with:
South Korea’s National Radio Research Agency has certified a “low power wireless device” from Valve with the designation “RC-V1V-1030,” as spotted by @dxpl at Arca.live (via Brad Lynch).
The South Korean certification tells us basically nothing about the device, save that it uses 5GHz Wi-Fi, which most computers already have at this point.
But telecommunications regulatory agencies typically don’t require certification for internal prototypes — only if you’re going to import at least a small quantity of devices in a country, and maybe put them on sale.
There are other hints in Valve’s own code, however — Phoronix’s Michael Larabel spotted that Valve has added new changes around the Steam Deck’s Van Gogh APU, including the mysterious product name “Galileo” and product family “Sephiroth.” (Aerith, closely connected to Sephiroth in Final Fantasy VII, is another name for the Deck’s APU.)
While Larabel initially suggests it might just be a Steam Deck refresh reference board, Valve’s Greg Coomer told me in 2021 that the Steam Deck’s existing APU might make sense in a standalone VR headset.
A standalone VR headset codenamed Deckard was at least being prototyped inside Valve, sources confirmed to YouTuber Brad Lynch and Ars Technica back in 2021, and some patent images made the rounds last June.
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