All it will take is for the reverse uno card to be implemented at a large enough scale against proprietary software before companies throw a pissy fit and this will all go away. Alternatively GPL could stipulate that AI implementation would trigger copyleft protections.

This whole thing is stupid and in such bad faith. Maliciously clean room engineering open source software just to get around pesky licensing issues will cause so many more problems for these morons that already leech off the hard work of open source devs anyways. They literally have a steady stream of free software and all they have to do is NOT steal it. That’s it. Just don’t be a fucking evil goon, that’s the only stipulation. They’re shooting themselves in the foot so hard.

But no, having free access to the hard work of others isn’t enough, they have to hoard it for themselves, like everything else in this deeply rotten civilization.

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So fucking cringe bro, honestly embarrassing

I’d be so mad if the last thing I saw before plummeting to my fiery death was that stupid smug little sad face and a BSOD

Fuck Ross Asshat and fuck this guy too

Oh you meant SURELY, I thought my bike was evil now too like goddamn

Sounds about right

They will nuke your account after 14-30 days if you don’t comply.

Thanks for taking the time to share that with me. I am no Zionist. However, I do pose the question, because of Red Hat’s stewardship of Fedora, do you believe that makes Fedora morally compromised? Because Red Hat develops systemd, does that mean all Linux distros that use it are thusly compromised as well? ARPANET, the technology that the modern internet stems from, was developed directly by the US Deprtment of Defense. Can a leftist then morally use the internet? I don’t mean this as a sarcastic strawman but as a genuine question in good faith. I myself don’t have an answer, probably a bit yes and a bit no. I will point out the distinction that while Fedora doesn’t have control of what Red Hat does or does not to, it does have direct control over whether or not to implement these age verification laws in question.

What about a distro like Universal Blue, which is directly downstream of Fedora but not affiliated with it organizationally? Where do we draw the line between consent and simple happenstance? Everything is connected to a Nazi, a Zionist or colonialism if you dig deep enough, we live in capitalist hell-world, it’s the foundation of our very society. Consent is implied an in many cases, unavoidable.

That being said you have given me quite a bit to think about and if anything have solidified my decision to move away from Fedora. I hope you don’t interpret my response as adversarial in any way like others who have responded to my post. Cheers

The issue that seems insurmountable to me is that convenience will always be the path of least resistance to the great majority of users because they DO treat web usage as consumption, because they themselves are economic units that have been trained in their economic conditions to be consumers.

To 90% of users instagram might as well be magic. The tech doesn’t matter. Authentication, identity, security, these things are MEANINGLESS to the average user. They see security as something that’s burdensome and forced upon them my their IT department, and that actually materially affects their real lives in a big way. Open internet? They couldn’t be bothered.

Until open web or fediverse or whatever can be as absolutely frictionless as signing up for instagram, they won’t use it. They already have complicated lives, they aren’t going to give a fuck about “stewardship” of the web.

But at what cost

Care to backup your claim? I’m not familiar with that bit.

As far as I’m aware, fedora is a public project and not a org that is “owned” by anyone. You’ve got to do a great bit of mental gymnastics to arrive at your conclusion just to try and make me feel stupid. Why?

Also don’t act like there aren’t serious implications of imposing age checks in supposedly free libre software. Libre software should be a fundamental human right. You can believe in that and also that military interventionism is also bad.

You can conflate my point of view all you want, but let’s dial back the cutesy sarcasm. Thanks.

Oh you want to find love in this spiraling dumpster fire hell world? What if instead we made an algorithm to fuel the Human Suffering Machine with your face

I’m no Marxist

the people who own Walmart and Amazon are the people who work there

Friend, may I introduce you to a little something known as “Dictatorship of the Proletariat?”

I’m less twitchy on the AI thing. CEO’s gonna CEO, and I think this whole AI thing is going to quietly die down. It’s just… not as useful as the people pushing it says it is. You can’t just mass-delusion people into thinking something does what it doesn’t do. It writes bad code. It is insecure. It makes people insane. These are facts. The tech is not improving.

Not to mention, I find the Register quite often to be a bit too-cute-by-half in its “reporting”. We’ll see.

https://github.com/BryanLunduke/DoesItAgeVerify

endeavorOS is listed among those who have “decided not to age verify” but I will say the author of this page is a certifiable moron so take that with a grain of salt. Of all the distros listed and not implementing age verification, endeavorOS’s seem the least explicit.

hate to hand it to them but they’ve impressed me lately in the privacy/security space. apple has put itself miles ahead of stock android and microslop when it comes to enshittification of its services and not spying on its users.

of course that’s the bare fucking minimum and FOSS is always the best answer, but still, it should be said.

edit: those of you downvoting please enlighten us how much better Google and Microsoft are at handling your data.

Fair point, but I think at this point it’s extremely likely Fedora will comply, and my issue with this is ideological, not practical. I will not use a distribution that complies with this law because I believe it is morally compromised.