If we’re being pedantic, we can go bank to the Magna Carta, or Hammurabi as the beginning of civil rights. But you’re the one who set the 80 year mark, which coincides with the 20th century civil rights movement which was a distinct movement from the abolitionism of the 1830s.

But you’re wrong either way. The 20th century civil rights movement was absolutely supported by Democrats, or was Lyndon Johnson not a Democrat when he signed the voting rights act?

And the 19th century civil rights movement was championed by the pre-switch liberal Republican party. So yes, the liberal party has been supportive, if not integral, to civil rights. You’d have to be pretty poorly educated in US history to be ignorant of that fact.

False. In many industries workers also drink before and during work.

Strange, that’s right about when the entire civil rights movement started. What are you smoking?

You see, corporate monopolies are different than the state because

You’ve been voting the lesser evil for 80 years, does it feel like it’s bought you time?

Unequivocally yes. Imagine if the right wing clinched power in 1944 and never lost traction. You think civil rights would be better?

I’m not voting for genocide, in voting against it, hence why I’m not voting for Dems or Reps.

What’s that accomplished in the last 80 years?

You have a fundamental misunderstanding of how voting works, mechanically, in a FPTP system. You don’t vote for things. You vote against them.

Once RCV takes hold (thank your local and state representatives) I’ll be right there beside you voting my conscience. Until then, that’s not a productive strategy. It does not achieve the intended goal.

Lesser evil buys time. Vote for progressives on your state ballots. If there aren’t any, vote for progressives on your local ballots. If there aren’t any, run for local office as a progressive.

Groove is stored in the heart

Genocide is bad. Multiple genocides, and faster, is worse. One genocide is closer to my preferred ideology of zero genocides than that same genocide but worse, plus additional genocides. The only people who are unconvinced by that arithmetic are idealists who care more about maintaining their ideological purity than actually helping people.

How right, I should limit my neurotic nitpicking to appropriate spaces.

Time cube. What are you, educated stupid and evil?

They seem like cheap plated metal, any alterations are going to wind up flaking and looking terrible

Eclipses do not have a semicircular phase. It’s wrong as lunar phases, and it’s wrong as an ecliptic transit.

Considering that semi-circles are not part of an eclipse, no.

Different colors? They’re all monochrome gold, if it looks like different colors that’s just reflections from light in the room

I’m not sure I understand. Like put them in the lathe and smooth the points out?

You are one of those liberals who value the status quo and respectability over all else

Way off.

I’m a leftist who knows what the word “praxis” means. All your performative posturing doesn’t do anything.

The status quo doesn’t change because you squander your vote, it changes one seat at a time. If we really outnumber them, we could replace them. From the bottom up. The status quo is too powerful to overthrow, it has to be consumed.

One of the two is going to win. Yes, abstaining is elevating your ego over a difficult decision, who cares what the consequences are so long as you can say you didn’t do it. I assume you are also one of those spoiled children who has never had to make a difficult decision then? Keeping your nose clean is more important than mitigating damage?

Dunno what I’m supposed to get from reading the exact same thing a second time.

I’ll make you a deal, you acknowledge the fact that Biden tried in good faith to hold shipments to Israel in response to Rafah only to be blocked by Congress, and I’ll pretend you’ve been mistaking Biden for Blinken this whole time.

Yes, and those blocs are smaller than the blocs who support Israel. Trading a big number for a small number makes your total number smaller, this is simple arithmetic.

Those people are helping an alternative which is at least as bad for Palestine, and much worse for many other people. Those people should reevaluate exactly how good their conscience is, when they prioritize their personal feelings over the tangible suffering of others. I know some of those people personally, they are without exception spoiled kids who have never had to make messy, difficult decisions in no-win scenarios.

Sure they do, which is why non-voters don’t matter to them. The most vocal abstainers find a new reason the Dems aren’t good enough every cycle, so pursuing them doesn’t help win. Taking a hard line on Israel might pick up a couple people, but it will alienate a much larger bloc, which also hurts their chances of winning.

They have zero incentive to try to get your vote. You’ll move the goalposts when they try, and they’ll drive more voters away in the process.