• Harrison [He/Him]
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    110 months ago

    History has proven time and again that given the opportunity, the nation’s bordering Israel in every direction (save possibly Lebanon) will try to either annex Israel or restore the entirety of it to an Arab nationalist muslim government.

    Should such an event come to pass, the displacement of the entire population would be a best case scenario. The Jewish population of Syria and Jordan are both zero, and Egypt’s is less than 20, down from several hundred thousand between the three in 1948.

    There is no way to interpret the Hama’s charter other than incitement to genocide.

    The major factors preventing another Arab-Israeli war are tensions with Iran, Billions of dollars in US military aid, and the nuclear weapons likely owned by the Israeli state.

    Dissolve the Israeli state, and unless you replace with something similar, and those factors will no longer stand. Compromise the territorial integry of the new state to any serious degree, including ceding the west bank to a Palestinian state, and Israel becomes militarily indefensible.

    • ThereRisesARedStar [she/her, they/them]
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      210 months ago

      “Israel has to do genocide or the people Israel funded might to genocide”

      You know Israel could just try to be a pluralistic society that doesn’t do genocide or apartheid right? But then it wouldn’t really be Israel would it?

      • Harrison [He/Him]
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        110 months ago

        How exactly could Israel try to be a pluralistic society? Neither side will accept a one state solution.

        • ThereRisesARedStar [she/her, they/them]
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          110 months ago

          Well, Israel could start funding socialist opposition who wouldn’t do sectarian violence to them if apartheid ended. It worked with Hamas, it should work the other way around.

          And other things that won’t happen because again, Israel is a settler colonialist ethnostate bent on exterminating Palestinians.

          • Harrison [He/Him]
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            110 months ago

            No amount of money is going to change attitudes that severely without some sort of forced indoctrination. It didn’t work with Hamas, their attitude was there from the start, and years of Israeli and Iranian funding has only helped them remain one of the major Palestinian political organisations.

            And please, Israel is an apartheid state sure, no arguments here, but the Palestinian population is one of the fasted growing in the world. They are entirely at the mercy of the Israeli state, and if the Israeli goal were to exterminate them as you say, they would have had some results in the past seventy years.