What an utter piece of shit.

  • dimath
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    10 months ago

    But it’s more like it’s doctor’s own life support system and the patient connected himself to it.

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      10 months ago

      imagine being so brainwashed that you think owning the life support machine morally entitles you to decide who is kept alive with it.

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        9 months ago

        Imagine being so brainwashed that you think since someone else owns a life support machine, you have the right to use it to kill people you don’t like.

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            9 months ago

            Nope. In this case the doctors machine isn’t a life support system, it’s more like an xray machine. The ownership remains the doctors the entire time. The doctor chooses to stop a patient who wants to use the machine to kill another patient.its his machine to begin with. The ONLY morally correct decision is to not allow it. Get mad at the doctor all you want, at the end of the day you’re advocating for murder.

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              9 months ago

              You honestly think who owns the tool being used changes the morality of murder?

              Nevermind that we’re actually talking about war between nation states, not a doctor stopping a hospital patient from, erm, repeatedly shooting someone else with X-ray radiation?

              What a silly allegory you’ve come up with

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                9 months ago

                Lol the ownership of the tool is not at what the point is. The point is that you and many others think Elon is somehow obligated to assist Ukraine in killing Russians with his tools. Not only is he not obligated, he is morally obligated to NOT help them. The morality of murder doesn’t change, the only thing changing is the vast majority of brain washed peons who think Elon is somehow responsible for Ukrainian deaths. I changed the tool to x-ray because in this case, Starlink is not a tool that is designed to kill or keep alive, only aide in communication. In this situation, Ukraine wanted to use this tool to kill. Fuck anyone that thinks this is okay. Fuck anyone knocking elon for denying it. Unlike the vast majority of users here, I am an actual combat vet who has experienced these things first hand. It’s easy for anyone to sit behind a computer desk and dehumanize people because of their country. No different than the piece of shit politicians making money off the backs of these murders.

                If you can’t see this point or comprehend these allegories then perhaps you’re part of the problem.

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        10 months ago

        Good argument, but where do you draw the line? You can save someone right now by an act of a good will, but do you do it?