• CicadaSpectre@lemmygrad.ml
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    8 months ago

    Mad respect to my comrades taking the time to try to engage and educate the liberals who literally refuse to have a positive thought about China. I’ve never seen one of them actually read an article or respond to the best points; usually they just find what they perceive is the weakest or most controversial argument and focus on that. Anything to deny the fact that sinophobic bias and believing propaganda is 90% of their reasoning for their shit takes. Still, I’m proud of the people in the community that still actively try to educate. I wish I had that patience anymore.

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      8 months ago

      remember when all those people were screaming outside of their windows during covid lockdown? does PNY still have suicide nets installed on campus? hmmm…can you name a business in america that installs suicide nets for its employees?

      “libs refuse to have a positive thought about China”

      oh. I’m sorry i thought dehumanizing and slave work conditions were shitty. i must be wrong :(

      edit: i was mistaken. my local bakery and grocery store both have suicide nets installed. damn.

      • Muad'Dibber@lemmygrad.mlM
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        remember when all those people were screaming outside of their windows during covid lockdown?

        Not sure what this one is about, but China’s focus community health during covid, and the sacrifices made by thousands of Chinese medical personell, made it have one of the lowest covid infection and death rates in the world, despite being the likely point of origin.

        China: 85 deaths per million

        US and UK: ~3,3k per million.

        The US lost a million ppl, more than it lost during ww2, sacrificing it’s elderly and infirm on the altar of capitalism.

        Source: Our World it Data

        does PNY still have suicide nets installed on campus? hmmm…can you name a business in america that installs suicide nets for its employees?

        Foxconn is a Taiwanese comapany, and the PRC is of course not immune to worker abuses in it’s specialized economic zones. What matters is the government response, which was to quickly address it.

        Also noteworthy in a given country is the state of despair and hopelessness among it’s population.

        Let’s compare China to the US, as well as it’s liberal neighbors:

        country Suicides per 100k
        China 6.7
        USA 14
        South Korea 21.2
        Japan 12.2

        Source: World Health Organization

        Also I think someone below addressed your Uyghur question, but let’s look at whether the world, and Muslim countries in particular (who would be the recipient of a refugee crisis of a genocide were occuring), think about China’s handling of extremist terrorism:

        Interestingly, only the white anglo countries, who’ve been bombing the ME for decades, believe a genocide is happening. The Muslim (and African, Asian, and Latin American) world disagrees.

        How does the US, UK, France, etc treat it’s muslim minorities, and ethnic minorities in general? In the US, 1 / 4 black ppl will spend time in prison.

        Slavery is fully legal as punishment for a crime. The US currently operates a system of slave labor camps, including at least 54 prison farms involved in agricultural slave labor. Outside of agricultural slavery, Federal Prison Industries operates a multi-billion dollar industry with ~ 52 prison factories , where prisoners produce furniture, clothing, circuit boards, products for the military, computer aided design services, call center support for private companies. 1, 2, 3

        In the present day, ICE (U.S._Immigration_and_Customs_Enforcement), the police tasked with immigration enforcement, operates over 200 prison camps, housing over 31,000 undocumented people deemed “aliens”, 20,000 of which have no criminal convictions, in the US system of immigration detention. The camps include forced labor (often with contracts from private companies), poor conditions, lack of rights (since the undocumented aren’t considered citizens), and forced deportations, often splitting up families. Detainees are often held for a year without trial, with antiquated court procedures pushing back court dates for months, encouraging many to accept immediate deportation in the hopes of being able to return faster than the court can reach a decision, but forfeiting legal status, in a cruel system of coercion. 1, 2

        The US committed a genocide against it’s indigenous inhabitants that served as the model for Nazi Germany, and got away with it. They’re all incredibly xenophobic with respect to their muslim minorities.

        Which country or group of countries, do you think is telling the truth?

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          Not sure what this one is about

          It’s about Chinese singing with open windows during lockdown, which totally not racist westerners took for wailing of starving people when they heard it on video. Well, by “took” I mean, news interpreted it for them and they rolled with that, because they’re totally not brainwashed.