It amazes me how people can wail about the record breaking heat on one hand and the effects of climate change, and sit in these comments and rationalize that eating meat isn’t contributing. Of course it is.
Going vegan was the best decision I ever made for myself.
Politics will NEVER implement something that most people are against - so yeah it’s 100% on individual responsibility to change first and show them that it’s no problem if meat or flying or even fuel gets much more expensive since it’s not sustainable at this level since they already reduced their consumption.
If people don’t do that first then politicians won’t take those measures.
Just see what the (small) rise in gas prices for the end-user from Russia attacking Ukraine did in terms of protests and people blaming politicians on being responsible for the high prices.
Also if you vote with your wallet then there is incentive for the big corporations to change, too (even if that alone won’t solve anything it’s still helping). For example the biggest producer or meat replacements in Germany is a really old company that only sold meat until a couple of years ago.
They started some test balloons and because people kept buying it they kept increasing the production amounts and now they sell more replacement than meat.
Animal products are incredibly harmful to the climate and are inherently wasteful.
Those corporations get their money from people like you.
Yes regulation would be the best to stop them but you know that’s not gonna happen any time soon, especially when everyone refuses to change their own habits, politicians aren’t gonna force through regulations that get people angry because they want their steaks.
Why do you want to continue to participate in something bad until it’s legally not allowed anymore?
Why not do what you can (stop consuming animal products) while also advocating for regulation and political change?
What does holding evil corporations accountable look like if not refusing to give them your money?
I am sure @BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world would grant you the right to complain about the need for systemic change once you’ve taken personal responsibility.
It’s because everything about my existence in a modern first world society contributes to it. Humans obviously can’t maintain stasis, so maybe we as a whole are the problem. I am very proudly and staunchly childfree for that reason but I’m not going to go live in the forest in a tent to save the planet for a species that obviously doesn’t deserve it.
It’s almost like going vegan basically only requires shopping in different aisles at the grocery store, and you’re using a reductio ad absurdum fallacy to justify your shitty, easily-changed behavior.
NOT A SINGLE PERSON asked you to live in the forest in a tent. Taking the bus, being vegan, buying second hand, and eating the rich are all things we can do, AND STILL LIVE A MODERN, COMFORTABLE LIVE.
I’m childfree, carfree, and vegan. Still manage to love live inside my non-tent in my non-forest city.
Actually, the original comment was doing that, I was sarcastically making the same comment to point out how dumb it is and you are picking and choosing when its okay to do this based on your biases.
Eating meat isn’t the same thing as rationalising that it isn’t contributing.
Also, it’s now perfectly possible to exist in society without eating meat at all. The evidence being all the people who go about their lives doing exactly that.
It amazes me how people can wail about the record breaking heat on one hand and the effects of climate change, and sit in these comments and rationalize that eating meat isn’t contributing. Of course it is.
Going vegan was the best decision I ever made for myself.
It’s almost as bad as blaming the “individual” for climate change.
Politics will NEVER implement something that most people are against - so yeah it’s 100% on individual responsibility to change first and show them that it’s no problem if meat or flying or even fuel gets much more expensive since it’s not sustainable at this level since they already reduced their consumption.
If people don’t do that first then politicians won’t take those measures.
Just see what the (small) rise in gas prices for the end-user from Russia attacking Ukraine did in terms of protests and people blaming politicians on being responsible for the high prices.
Also if you vote with your wallet then there is incentive for the big corporations to change, too (even if that alone won’t solve anything it’s still helping). For example the biggest producer or meat replacements in Germany is a really old company that only sold meat until a couple of years ago.
They started some test balloons and because people kept buying it they kept increasing the production amounts and now they sell more replacement than meat.
Animal products are incredibly harmful to the climate and are inherently wasteful.
Those corporations get their money from people like you.
Yes regulation would be the best to stop them but you know that’s not gonna happen any time soon, especially when everyone refuses to change their own habits, politicians aren’t gonna force through regulations that get people angry because they want their steaks.
Why do you want to continue to participate in something bad until it’s legally not allowed anymore?
Why not do what you can (stop consuming animal products) while also advocating for regulation and political change?
What does holding evil corporations accountable look like if not refusing to give them your money?
I am sure @BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world would grant you the right to complain about the need for systemic change once you’ve taken personal responsibility.
It’s because everything about my existence in a modern first world society contributes to it. Humans obviously can’t maintain stasis, so maybe we as a whole are the problem. I am very proudly and staunchly childfree for that reason but I’m not going to go live in the forest in a tent to save the planet for a species that obviously doesn’t deserve it.
It’s almost like going vegan basically only requires shopping in different aisles at the grocery store, and you’re using a reductio ad absurdum fallacy to justify your shitty, easily-changed behavior.
Promise me you’ll never get on a plane again in your life and I’ll promise to never eat meat again.
NOT A SINGLE PERSON asked you to live in the forest in a tent. Taking the bus, being vegan, buying second hand, and eating the rich are all things we can do, AND STILL LIVE A MODERN, COMFORTABLE LIVE.
I’m childfree, carfree, and vegan. Still manage to love live inside my non-tent in my non-forest city.
Have you ridden in a vehicle? If so, I guess you can’t complain about man made climate change resulting from corporate greed by this brilliant logic.
you’re doing this
Actually, the original comment was doing that, I was sarcastically making the same comment to point out how dumb it is and you are picking and choosing when its okay to do this based on your biases.
No it wasn’t.
Eating meat isn’t the same thing as rationalising that it isn’t contributing.
Also, it’s now perfectly possible to exist in society without eating meat at all. The evidence being all the people who go about their lives doing exactly that.