I mean maybe. I think you might not have a great read on what the typical Republican voter represents.
Rightwing media has done an excellent job disambiguating the “Republican” identity from the “Conservative”/ “MAGA” identities. They get to bring those identities with them and I think for the vast majority of current Republican voters, that might be more than enough. No need for the shitty Republican branding (in fact, the act of rejecting it could be a very powerful attractant).
Democrats have done a much better job at keeping their brand identity indistinguishable from the movements it supposes to represent, perhaps to the detriment of those movements. Unless you are a junky and really pay attention to this stuff (which lets be real, most people here are), a Democrat and a Progressive are indistinct. Which is like, actually fucking hilarious because for me, on the rare occasion that I get into it with a conservative, they CONSTANTLY assume I’m some kind of Pelosi or Schumer fanboy, when in reality, I’m like I’m probably more opposed to them then any Republican or conservative is.
If Trump went third party, the Republican party would disappear like a fart in the wind and be doing about as well as the Libertarian party, for at least the presidential seat. Obviously a new third party won’t have the state level infrastructure, but for the big seat, a conservative third parties success depends 100% on the person running. I also think that in either 2016, or 2020, a progressive third party/ independent candidate (like if Bernie had seen the writing on the walls), could have handily won. The biggest issue in American politics is that most voters actually fucking hate both republicans and democrats, but you need their infrastructure to win for pretty much anything but the big seat.
Perhaps. I don’t keep up with Republican politics that much. But I still get the sense the silent majority of Republican voters are more centrist that straight facist ticket.
I also think that in either 2016, or 2020, a progressive third party/ independent candidate (like if Bernie had seen the writing on the walls), could have handily won. The biggest issue in American politics is that most voters actually fucking hate both republicans and democrats, but you need their infrastructure to win for pretty much anything but the big seat.
So this argument relies on the fact that DNC deliberately would have torpedoed Bernie’s chances. That they worked to suppress his chances. While he wasn’t the DNC’s favorite son, this is a bit of a conspiracy theory. Bernie and progressives just aren’t that popular nationwide among Democrats in general. They are popular on the internet, but new and fringe movements tend to be (remember the early Libertarian movement and how Ron Paul blew up?). The DNC is certainly trending progressive, as most of the world has. But America has always been very centrist-minded, due to FPTP voting.
I mean, that’d spoil the Republican vote and clue in any of the terminally-apathetic voters into exactly what they’re endorsing.
I mean maybe. I think you might not have a great read on what the typical Republican voter represents.
Rightwing media has done an excellent job disambiguating the “Republican” identity from the “Conservative”/ “MAGA” identities. They get to bring those identities with them and I think for the vast majority of current Republican voters, that might be more than enough. No need for the shitty Republican branding (in fact, the act of rejecting it could be a very powerful attractant).
Democrats have done a much better job at keeping their brand identity indistinguishable from the movements it supposes to represent, perhaps to the detriment of those movements. Unless you are a junky and really pay attention to this stuff (which lets be real, most people here are), a Democrat and a Progressive are indistinct. Which is like, actually fucking hilarious because for me, on the rare occasion that I get into it with a conservative, they CONSTANTLY assume I’m some kind of Pelosi or Schumer fanboy, when in reality, I’m like I’m probably more opposed to them then any Republican or conservative is.
If Trump went third party, the Republican party would disappear like a fart in the wind and be doing about as well as the Libertarian party, for at least the presidential seat. Obviously a new third party won’t have the state level infrastructure, but for the big seat, a conservative third parties success depends 100% on the person running. I also think that in either 2016, or 2020, a progressive third party/ independent candidate (like if Bernie had seen the writing on the walls), could have handily won. The biggest issue in American politics is that most voters actually fucking hate both republicans and democrats, but you need their infrastructure to win for pretty much anything but the big seat.
Perhaps. I don’t keep up with Republican politics that much. But I still get the sense the silent majority of Republican voters are more centrist that straight facist ticket.
So this argument relies on the fact that DNC deliberately would have torpedoed Bernie’s chances. That they worked to suppress his chances. While he wasn’t the DNC’s favorite son, this is a bit of a conspiracy theory. Bernie and progressives just aren’t that popular nationwide among Democrats in general. They are popular on the internet, but new and fringe movements tend to be (remember the early Libertarian movement and how Ron Paul blew up?). The DNC is certainly trending progressive, as most of the world has. But America has always been very centrist-minded, due to FPTP voting.