• Sinnerman
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    2311 months ago

    OpenAI scraped the Internet, legally and illegally to power ChatGPT.

    I’m not a huge OpenAI fan, but it’s not yet been determined that they acted illegally. I believe the matter is still being pursued in court.

    • snooggums
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      3011 months ago

      I think people are too focused on the scraping, which is clearly not illegal, but is what the roch people who own the websites are hollering about because they wanted to make money off of selling the posted content they did not actually own

      Open AI’s implementation of image creation in the style of a particular artist using copyrighted works is going to be the big outcome.

      • @KevonLooney@lemm.ee
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        1011 months ago

        It’s not illegal for a person to learn things online. That’s one of the original purposes of the “world wide web” when it was opened to universities.

        It is illegal to copy someone’s brand and use it to make money. These chat bots are literally charging people to take input like “write a story in this author’s style” and outputting a story that is a poor mimicry. The main problem is they are charging money based on someone else’s trademark. Not that they write a similar story.

      • Pennomi
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        11 months ago

        Illegally, maybe. Immorally, probably not. It’s fine for a human to read something and learn from it, so why not an algorithm? All of the original content is diluted into statistics so much that the source material does not exist in the model. They didn’t hack any databases, they merely use information that’s already available for anyone to read on the internet.

        Honestly, the real problem is not that OpenAI learned from publicly available material, but that something trained on public material is privately owned.

        • @uranibaba@lemmy.world
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          211 months ago

          but that something trained on public material is privately owned.

          Is that really a problem? Is a create something new based on public knowledge, should I not be able to profit from it?

          I learn to paint from YouTube, should I paint for free now?

          I’ll admit that the scope of ChatGPT is MUCH bigger than one person painting.

          • Pennomi
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            11 months ago

            I’d say that was a more controversial opinion. From a purist perspective I tend to believe that intellectual property in general is not ethical and stifles innovation.