I’m just middle aged and lost all energy for unproductive discussions. The second another poster posts something genuinely hostile, like “touch grass” kinda shit, I’m just done talking. Also if we’re six comments in and the other guy won’t even admit to being wrong to the thing he said on comment one, despite me doing twenty minutes of research to prove conclusively that he’s wrong, I don’t want to waste another second of my life on him.

I gotta have 10% of the “disengage” comments on this site.

  • You’re not getting paid for this. You’re not even a volunteer. You’re doing this (presumably) for recreational purposes–because it makes you feel good. You don’t owe anyone anything. Disengage when you’re not getting what you want out of it.

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    Hot take, I think the “disengage” rule is good but I don’t like the way we do it.

    Saying “disengage” sounds like your commanding someone to disengage, which comes off as a final “fuck you!” It’s basically a mod enforced way to have the last word. If we instead said “I’m disengaging” or “i want to cease this convo”, idk something that had more to a tinge of humility to it I think it could come off better.

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      if we instead said “I’m disengaging” or “i want to cease this convo”, idk something that had more to a tinge of humility to it I think it could come off better.

      Ya I agree, this sounds way better.

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      There’s also the issue where someone will write a multi paragraph response then add disengage at the end to ger the last word in

      There was a post a while ago where mods were saying not to do that but it isn’t enforced

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        Its absolutely enforced when we see it happen. Report any instance of the disengage rule being used improperly like that. We don’t see everything and rely heavily on user reports to point out CoC violations

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        There’s also the issue where someone will write a multi paragraph response then add disengage at the end to ger the last word in

        That hasn’t been an issue for over a year. Doing that will - or at least was - grounds for a banning. I know because I’m the one that asked for the rule to be clarified so it didn’t work like that.
        There was some drama with some user who kept doing it, which was the motivation for the rule change/clarification.

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      You know I tried something like that recently, but the people who need a disengage aren’t the ones to take a hint. It’s a command because the people who’s hobby that day is to argue with you aren’t going to respect polite boundaries.

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        Okay but I’ve seen as many examples of people using it as a “have the last word spell” than as a way to tell someone who’s legit been pestering you to fuck off.

        I’m pretty sure spamming someone with replies after they’ve asked you to stop is against the rules anyway so you could just report them.

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      Can you explain the disengage rule? I think this is the first I’m hearing about it and that’s kind of weird/concerning because I feel like I should know the rules of this place.

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      Without naming names, I’ve got in arguments with some users who will just keep coming back and posting more replies after you stop responding. Sometimes for days, in one case, weeks.

      I also think there’s some value in actively signalling that the conversation was actually really sucky and you hated it. Helps steer people in nicer directions, I’d argue.

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        I also think there’s some value in actively signalling that the conversation was actually really sucky and you hated it.

        NGL I’m guilty of this

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      I wish blocking worked better, you can still see when blocked users have replied. And blocked users can still see and comment on your posts all the same, doesn’t feel nice.

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        And blocked users can still see and comment on your posts all the same, doesn’t feel nice.

        As long as you don’t actually see the comments, I would say this is a good thing because you can see the loser coping and seething at your comments while you’ve long since moved on with your life.

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          You can’t see the comments directly, but you will see “x more replies” which means a blocked user replied. Which is very annoying.

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    Disengage is for if people are following you between threads and comments, not a “Get the last word in” spell.

    and yes, If someone makes one reply that’s a stupid misinterpretation of what I said, blocked forever.

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    Saying you want to disengage isn’t just for you, it’s also a signal to the other person that you have no interest in talking to them and they shouldn’t waste their time either, not just yours. If they respond to a “disengage” with some smug comeback, they’re just wasting their time.

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    Life is short. I can’t imagine you being on your deathbed lamenting the fact that you routinely refused to go 12+ comments deep with someone who was being obstinate and arguing like its bloodsport.

    You have a right to reclaim your peace.

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    At least on this site, there’s so many times its the same miserable poster being overly hostile for no reason, there’s no point in engaging

    I block people all the time for being kinda annoying or unfunny or hostile to others and don’t think twice about it

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      It feels like Hexbear is warmer than other places on social media. But I have this habit of scrolling past long comment chains, so maybe I’m just missing it.

      Does blocking prevent the other person from seeing and replying to you? Or does it just stop you from seeing them? Thanks.

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        Also do note, if you block a user, you will also be unable to view any replies to comments they make (but the 'xx more replies > ’ link will still show and their comments will show up towards the post comment count. It’s a glitch I believe but it’s a weird artifact that kind of reminds you of the person you blocked, and can hide legitimate comments you would like to read. (I’m relaying this from what I’ve heard, I haven’t blocked anyone)

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      the same miserable poster being overly hostile

      Some of them reminds me of my time working in a kitchen. You have one or two of those psychoes who get spit on the bosses or customers and they lash out at the juniors of the crew.

      Absolute control freaks with a napoleonic complexe

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    Think of it like real life. You’re at party having a discussion with somebody that turns into an argument. If the person you’re talking to is an asshole - there’s no point in talking so why keep talking? Just walk away.