He then ends up suggesting the reason they don’t like Harris is because she’s a woman -

“Because part of it makes me think – and I’m speaking to men directly – part of it makes me think that, well, you just aren’t feeling the idea of having a woman as president, and you’re coming up with other alternatives and other reasons for that.”

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    The answer when facing opposition isn’t to throw up your hands and declare it too difficult. Keep pushing

    That is, unfortunately, not the message that modern liberals seem to adhere to.

    Side note, don’t fucking blame marginalized people when things go sideways.

    But it’s the American Way.

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      Liberals know voters want to hear the message ‘vote for me and I will fix the problems’.

      They know voters would be turned off by the more accurate message: vote for me and we can turn the steering wheel of this massive machine slightly left for 4 years, and if we keep that up for a few cycles we can eventually solve the problems.

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        They know voters would be turned off by the more accurate message: vote for me and we can turn the steering wheel of this massive machine slightly left for 4 years

        That’s exactly the message they’ve been running on since 2008.

        Obama’s “the long arc of history bends towards progress” speech was this practically verbatium. And it was popular precisely because it was seen as modest and achievable. The problem is that Obama didn’t achieve it. He spent eight years treading water from the Bush Era, during which he normalized a bunch of the illegal, unconscionable, and ultimately detrimental practices of the Bush Administration before handing the reins over to… Donald Trump.

        History didn’t bend towards progress. It whipped directly back in the face of those enthusiastic moderates. But the only lesson it appears to have taught them is that even Obama was too ambitious and too extreme, despite bending over backwards to appease moderate Republicans. So Biden stepped in as an even more conservative version of Obama. Two years into office, he too gets hit with a backlash, which the party took to conclude they were too radical under Biden.

        Now we’ve got Harris, a candidate who has fallen fully in line with the Cheney family on litany of domestic and foreign policy issues. Will this turn voters off? Will it prove that the Cheneys are too left-wing for the American voter? Only time will tell.

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          Biden stepped in as an even more conservative version of Obama. Two years into office, he too gets hit with a backlash, which the party took to conclude they were too radical under Biden.

          Biden has been firmly left of Obama on economics, environmental, and foreign policy.

          What makes you say Biden has been more conservative? What aspects specifically

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            Biden has been firmly left of Obama

            He campaigned by co-opting a number of Bernie’s platforms in 2020 and immediately abandoned them on taking office.

            What makes you say Biden has been more conservative?

            He cut back a bunch of progressive social programs on the back end of COVID, then ratcheted up military and police spending and sent big financial kickbacks to a bunch of morbund corporate interests. His DOJ has fixated on drug crime and immigration crime, while going nearly blind to financial crime and civil rights abuses. O&G drilling surged on his watch, particularly on public lands. He’s been steadily privatizing everything from the post office to the space program.

            Dude’s to the right of Ronald Reagan.