Various nuggets of interest in this survey of Gen Z and millennials
As a dude, if a woman listens to Joe Rogan, it’s a red flag.
Johnny Harris did a “both sides” dive into Joe a month ago and I unsubbed after watching that garbage. He just kinda breezes over shit and ends up being like “he just intellectually curious.” Fuck right off with that shit. I remember years ago when that jungle spice smoking thumb of a man had Andy Ngo on and a friend of mine was trying to defend him asking if its “ok for people to attack a journalist.” The friend didn’t really know the context outside of the vague framework they supplied, but we argued for like 20 minutes. Even after I showed him who Ngo really was and what he was all about, it seemed impossible to break the perception he’d been given that Ngo was a victim.
Rogan is a misinformation gateway that primes people for the bigger scam down the line, whilst washing it’s hands of any responsibility. He disarms people with a “curious” persona and the majority of his content just being empty mental calories to be consumed. It’s like a viral carrier that dulls peoples mental immunity against right wing propaganda by surrounding it in a 100 layers of DMT vision stories. Personally feel like it makes him one of the bigger dangers for people getting put into the pilled pipeline.
Rogan is a misinformation gateway that primes people for the bigger scam down the line, whilst washing it’s hands of any responsibility.
It’s a psychological phenomenon called “the Joe Rogan Experience”. Seriously, as an avid former listener, it’s basically that. We can debate whether or not be doesn’t it maliciously or not but this is actually what’s happening.
As a former listener I just enjoyed that he had people on I both wanted to hear from and people who were talking about shit I never heard of so it filled din as background noise while working. Even when he was misinformed it was merely the topic of the day. Sometime around when he had Dan Crenshaw on for the first time is when I remember him really digging into weird rightwing talking points. Once covid hit it was over. It was like he moved into an ego silo and he wouldnt even let his guests provide a point of view he didn’t agree with or understand. Every episode became about COVID and the woke left. He really is a fucking misinformation machine who can get away with it because everyone knows he is that fucking stupid.
I live in Portland so I’ve had the “privilege” of seeing who Andy Ngo really is closer hand than most. He’s nothing but a right wing propagandist, but he tries to cast himself as a journalist. The only similarity between him and an actual journalist is that he writes things.
Someone earlier was still trying to push the “cement milkshakes” thing that never happened. It was scary when the media did pick him up while he was useful to them for a minute.
In a way I’m not surprised that the media picked that up. It was just hard to get a faithful account of everything that was happening at the scene.
Johnny Harris is weird. I can’t exactly pinpoint it because I lost interest in his content incredibly quickly. Loads of red flags.
He’s got an amateur’s level of knowledge while presenting as an expert. The moment in the video about China’s plans to invade Taiwan where he said he used Google Translate as opposed to asking literally anyone in DC who knows Mandarin to help him with translations was when I realized he doesn’t really know what he’s talking about for many of the subjects he covers. I think there are policy and IR issues where he actually does have some knowledge, but I don’t think any of it goes to the level of expertise required to educate on the subject, which is what he purports to do.
His Switzerland bunker video was great, had a look at the channel and it was dogshit
Johnny Harris has always been doing that shit. With every video he gets more ‘centrist’, or permissively unchallenging.
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Before listening to Joe Rogan, my dad was a Reagan-era fiscal conservative, and now he regularly talks about how the WEF is a conspiratorial group trying to bring about the “great reset”, how COVID was both a hoax and also a bioweapon meant to disrupt western capitalism, and how BLM is a terrorist Marxist group who supports abortion as a means to destroy the nuclear family. I largely credit Rogan (and other ‘apolitical’ gateway pundits like him) for my father, and millions of other men, taking a hard turn right into reactionary politics.
He is not a harmless ‘dumb ape’
That sucks. I wonder how many years of time we’ve all lost with our parents because these con-men. I listen to “Knowledge Fight” and Alex Jones has been crowing for months now how he’s finally locked Joe in and got him to commit to the plan. The pride in his voice as he preens about duping Rogan makes me fell physically ill. Highly recommend “Knowledge fight” if you haven’t checked it out!
Also of note 76% of women consider being a MAGA republican a red flag and somehow one percent actually considers the person reading a red flag. Also being conservative is about as unpopular as being a communist.
A lot of women want men afflicted with toxic masculinity, without the toxic towards her part. A lot of the bling-bling gurlies find like men who display “feminine traits” to be “icky”.
The cissies have the most boring bdsm and they’re all into it. My pleather collar > their 10k diamond ring
… is reading a “feminine trait”?
To a lot of heteronormative people, yes.
Even as a man it’s a red flag - “me no think so good, big thoughts hurt brain, bald man make hurt go away with soothing words”
A friend of mine started listening to him, and now my friend is an all out asshole 😢
joe rogan is a moron who perpetuates whatever simple simon viewpoint strikes him at any moment. I remember when he was stoked about a red wave that never came. People don’t like douche bags, it’s a turn off. If you are influenced by douche bags women could find that unattractive.
The only people I know who like joe rogan think elon musk is a messiah (while hating electric cars), love rap music (while hating black people) and think their belly button smells good.
and think their belly button smells good.
That’s a weird one.
The results for men are wild. A good chunk of the things men view as red flags are basically “she has an opinion”
And so many of them wonder why it’s hard to get a date
Yup thats sadly how most “normie” men think. They want bed/household slaves who 24/7 looks like a supermodel without any effort.
They want a bed/household slaves who 24/7 looks like a supermodel without any effort.
Pretty sure this is the tagline for fresh and fit.
Which ones? They’re similar for each gender.
To call those “similar” is incredibly disingenuous. They differ by as much as 100% in several cases
I think that goes for both, but what those opinions are obviously matters.
This has to be the most normie-ass sampling method of all time.
Ads on Facebook and Instagram???.. Only 1,000 people?.. More than 3% Sampling Error?
No wonder they got all of these fucking stupid results that every tabloid posted all over the internet without even waiting for ChangeReasearch to post the results on their site.
Maybe the commie dudes just fucked right off of Meta platforms and the only remaining dudes are sad and lonely incels who just want to look at the women who never left. (Assuming cishet here, no hate)
Americans are super weird…
Yeah, all of the flags listed there are mostly american politics culture war bs centric
You know those aren’t necessarily the ones that are the most common, just a random list that some pollster put together, right? And that the whole point of the list was to show political differences among current political topics, right?
Right?
The annoying thing is that they post articles like this without indicating it’s an US survey
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That “They own a gun” question would be so strange in my country, I can’t imagine this being normal.
I wish Lemmy had flairs like the language or reddit flairs so that we can filter out us centric topics.
It makes sense if you’re part of half the population that is subjected by rules and laws that penalize you in some form written by the other non liberal half of the population, like those brilliant anti abortion laws, you start to grow unsympathetic towards those.
It’s a red flag when I’m making new friends too.
It just screams “I don’t read up on any viewpoints presented to me”
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24% of men listen to Ben Shapiro? Fucking bleak
24% of male podcast listeners and honestly that tracks. People who listen to podcasts are already weasely little nerds
I just like to listen to Welcome To Night Vale while trying to fall asleep
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Why? To dox them? Whats the plan
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You can just ask them if it’s so important to you.
You’re fucking weird. You’re just as bad as any conservative hillbilly who doesn’t want any “libruh” neighbors.
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Jesus christ, man. How old are you? You don’t need to act like this. It’s ok to disagree with people and not act like a petulant child. Open, transparent dialogue is a good thing.
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My dude, you wanted to leak the names of people who listen to a podcast. It’s fucking weird. And no, you weren’t kidding so don’t try to play it off like that.
I guess it would be to look up a potential partner? Idk. Doesn’t seem useful or likely a good idea. Unless their name is extremely unique, seeing their name on that list isn’t going to tell you anything. I bet my name is on there hundreds of times.
Yes but also, by the same article, 55% of women considers a red flag if you “identify as a communist” and only 27% considers a turnoff “owning a gun”
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To be fair, communists do have a red flag.
oh my god, nice catch
Note identify as a communist not are identified as a communist by a right winger who doesn’t know what the word means and identifies anyone left of Adolf as a communist.
Edit: corrected
Presumably you meant ‘anyone left of Adolf’
correct
Because the popular image of “communists” are “weird tankie guys” who like read weird dead people and somehow are soyboys but also simultaneously want to oppress women.
I think that’s just an insular internet thing. I don’t even know what the popular perception of communists are. Probably just loud and annoying? Or someone who likes Russia a lot. There isn’t really a coherent view of communism among people who aren’t already into it.
Really? I heard the “communist are the true sexist akushally!” take a few times already, its being spread by the breadtube streamer crowd, who popularized ‘tankie’ as well.
Might depend on your social group and location. I live in the south where communist just means “extra left Democrat who also likes Russia.”
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Hell if you say there are only 2 genders - that’s a red flag in 55% of women… or 30% if you don’t care about politics
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What do you mean, “but”?
That the “sample population” is clearly biased by its “geographic origin” and “cultural context”
To be fair the Joe Rogan thing sort of gives that away already. 99% of women here in Europe would just ask “Who is Joe Rogan?” if asked about him.
Yeah, and I also find extremely weird that people can be against Rogan (for being Righ-wing I guess) but pro guns and anti communist. It doesn’t sound like “critical thinking” to me
I’m pro-gun; gun rights are also trans right, gay rights, and women’s rights; without gun rights, you don’t get the entire civil rights movement. Joe Rogan is still an idiot that amplifies the views of bigots, incels, and nationalists. Self-identified communists end up being authoritarian; it’s just red-flavored fascism.
without gun rights, you don’t get the entire civil rights movement
I’m really having a hard time understanding how the two things are connected
I don’t think there is a ‘but’. But it’s good to know that russians are not welcome.
Russians are imperialist, not communist. They dream of a great russian empire, not for return of the communism.
Either way, it’s still nice that they aren’t welcome.
Once Russia changes so that they can play nicely with each other and their neighbors, then they’re welcome.
Did you ever hear of this one year called 1991?
That number should be MUCH higher.
A goof chunk of the other 45% probably dont know the podcast
Mmm, goof chunk.
That percentage needs to be way higher for me to feel good things about it.
Youre not on social media??? 🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩
I hate social media. I prefer anonymous media
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