Who invited the weepy fucking vegan crowd? Fuck off, humans are omnivores and animals eat other animals. Stop going against nature itself. We aren’t special or above anything. We are animals with a mass of problem solving meat other animals probably find delicious. Besides, we kill more animals coming after your precious growing plants than we do deliberately for food.
Besides, we kill more animals coming after your precious growing plants than we do deliberately for food
That’s just not true. It takes far more crops to produce animal products than just eating plants for food. Feeding another being is a process that is very lossy for energy (they move around, have body functions, etc. that use up that energy)
“1 kg of meat requires 2.8 kg of human-edible feed for ruminants and 3.2 for monogastrics”
“If everyone shifted to a plant-based diet we would reduce global land use for agriculture by 75%. This large reduction of agricultural land use would be possible thanks to a reduction in land used for grazing and a smaller need for land to grow crops.”
“Plant-based foods have a significantly smaller footprint on the environment than animal-based foods. Even the least sustainable vegetables and cereals cause less environmental harm than the lowest impact meat and dairy products [9].”
Read up on growing crops. TONS OF ANIMALS THAT FEED ON GROWING PLANTS have to be exterminated to keep your precious plant stocks safe. Way to shift the argument.
I swear, it’s all 100% misinformation in this thread, on par with the alt-right authoritarian right movement, and I’m the one who is demonized and downvoted. It’s pathetic. Veganism is a cult.
You know, this argument would have better legs if our current approach to food production wasn’t one of the biggest contributing factors to environmental destruction and climate change.
Yes, humans are omnivores, yes, animals eat other animals.
But we’re not just eating other animals, we’re selectively breeding animals en masse to be bigger and beefier than their own legs and heart muscles can handle. We take over vast swathes of arable land to grow introduced soy and corn crop, creating a destructive mono culture, then we don’t even eat the nutritious crop, we pump it through feed pipes to barns and stock yards filled to the brim with thousands of animals.
Humans eating meat is natural.
But the way humans currently produce meat is far from natural.
While being vegan myself, I don’t agree that every human on earth should also be vegan, I just think we collectively need to accept that meat is a luxury, and treat it as such.
Our hunter gatherer ancestors did not eat meat every day.
Our dawn of agriculture ancestors did not eat meat every day.
Our forebearers of the industrial revolution did not eat meat every day.
Our own grandparents, prior to the 1950s, did not eat meat every day.
We should eat meat as nature intended…not the way our current battery farming practices allow
The only “childhood trauma” here is a bunch of weak vegan people dying from malnutrition brought on by seeing an animal as a child and learning it was used to make their dinner. Grow the hell up and accept that we need to eat meat.
You can still eat meat and treat them with respect. We know that animals that have less stress, produce better quality products. By cramming them into tight spaces and feeding them antibiotics, we are risking diseases and low yields.
Have you seen most places? There are tons of videos on the internet about raising cattle where they keep them in a barn instead of letting them roam outside and the animals are infinitely happier, plus no antibiotics are used unless they actually need them.
It’s misinformation like this that creates more ignorant vegans.
Who invited the weepy fucking vegan crowd? Fuck off, humans are omnivores and animals eat other animals. Stop going against nature itself. We aren’t special or above anything. We are animals with a mass of problem solving meat other animals probably find delicious. Besides, we kill more animals coming after your precious growing plants than we do deliberately for food.
Back to reddit with you.
That’s just not true. It takes far more crops to produce animal products than just eating plants for food. Feeding another being is a process that is very lossy for energy (they move around, have body functions, etc. that use up that energy)
“1 kg of meat requires 2.8 kg of human-edible feed for ruminants and 3.2 for monogastrics”
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2211912416300013
“If everyone shifted to a plant-based diet we would reduce global land use for agriculture by 75%. This large reduction of agricultural land use would be possible thanks to a reduction in land used for grazing and a smaller need for land to grow crops.”
https://ourworldindata.org/land-use-diets
“Plant-based foods have a significantly smaller footprint on the environment than animal-based foods. Even the least sustainable vegetables and cereals cause less environmental harm than the lowest impact meat and dairy products [9].”
https://www.mdpi.com/2072-6643/14/8/1614/htm
Read up on growing crops. TONS OF ANIMALS THAT FEED ON GROWING PLANTS have to be exterminated to keep your precious plant stocks safe. Way to shift the argument.
I swear, it’s all 100% misinformation in this thread, on par with the alt-right authoritarian right movement, and I’m the one who is demonized and downvoted. It’s pathetic. Veganism is a cult.
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You’re as bad as the morons who still support Trump and the alt-right.
You know, this argument would have better legs if our current approach to food production wasn’t one of the biggest contributing factors to environmental destruction and climate change.
Yes, humans are omnivores, yes, animals eat other animals.
But we’re not just eating other animals, we’re selectively breeding animals en masse to be bigger and beefier than their own legs and heart muscles can handle. We take over vast swathes of arable land to grow introduced soy and corn crop, creating a destructive mono culture, then we don’t even eat the nutritious crop, we pump it through feed pipes to barns and stock yards filled to the brim with thousands of animals.
Humans eating meat is natural.
But the way humans currently produce meat is far from natural.
While being vegan myself, I don’t agree that every human on earth should also be vegan, I just think we collectively need to accept that meat is a luxury, and treat it as such.
Our hunter gatherer ancestors did not eat meat every day.
Our dawn of agriculture ancestors did not eat meat every day.
Our forebearers of the industrial revolution did not eat meat every day.
Our own grandparents, prior to the 1950s, did not eat meat every day.
We should eat meat as nature intended…not the way our current battery farming practices allow
The post had nothing to do with veganism, you interpreted that yourself.
You seem like such an unhappy person if a post about animal cruelty fuels you with this much hate and anger.
Probably lots of childhood trauma, hope you can find help managing all that pent up anger and grow as a person.
The only “childhood trauma” here is a bunch of weak vegan people dying from malnutrition brought on by seeing an animal as a child and learning it was used to make their dinner. Grow the hell up and accept that we need to eat meat.
You can still eat meat and treat them with respect. We know that animals that have less stress, produce better quality products. By cramming them into tight spaces and feeding them antibiotics, we are risking diseases and low yields.
Have you seen most places? There are tons of videos on the internet about raising cattle where they keep them in a barn instead of letting them roam outside and the animals are infinitely happier, plus no antibiotics are used unless they actually need them.
It’s misinformation like this that creates more ignorant vegans.