• danielton@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz
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    Yeah and Sanders dropped out and we got fucking Biden. And people defend Biden because he’s not Trump. Nothing’s going to change now that Trump took over the Republican party, because why the fuck should Democrats try to do better? All that matters to voters is that Democrats are not Trump.

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      It was rough when Bernie had his own heart event, and I use the word “event” because it sounds more festive.

      I told my wife “Well, he’s done.” Even if he has the energy to be President, nobody will vote for someone with a heart condition.

      It’s a tough thing to recover from, even now, five years later, I don’t have the energy, focus, or acuity I had from before. :(

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        I feel bad for him, really I do. And I’m sorry to hear your story as well.

        I’m just frustrated that Biden is the best we can do against Trump now, and nobody seems to care because he’s not Trump. We need to do better than this, but every time I bring up the Democrats’ shortcomings, the response I get is always “Doesn’t matter because Trump exists!” or they assume I’m a Trump supporter.

        I’m afraid that now that Trump exists, Democrats are just going to stop trying to do anything like universal healthcare. Hell, they couldn’t even be bothered to codify Roe.

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          Trump is splintering his party though. Progress can’t happen as long as he’s around, Democrats have to pick up “moderates” (on the US Scale) and that puts everything else on pause. Pushing a progressive agenda now would just amplify Trump and potentially pull those moderates to him.

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              If we need more parties and more voices, then we need voting reform. FPTP always devolves down to two primary parties. Any secondary party would just be spoiler candidates.

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                Ain’t that the truth. As it stands now, I get called either a Nazi or a Libtard depending on who I’m talking to. It’s frustrating. Both sides will accept mediocrity as long as the other side doesn’t win.

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                  And that’s why it suits the Democratic Party to tone down the progressive wing and focus on attracting moderates. If Donald breaks his party in two, then we’ll have a repeat of Perot in 96 or Nader in 2000. In both cases there were plenty of votes for the alternative candidate just in a few key districts that would have totally flipped those respective elections had they gone to the first-party candidate more closely aligned with them.