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    9 months ago

    Workers literally have more bargaining power than employers at the moment, be I’m not deluded about that. I work in retention and partner with recruiting daily.

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      9 months ago

      You have argued that because you have encountered an abundance of job listings, therefore, employers have less bargaining power than employees.

      Job listings are not a scarce resource. Any employer may create any number for any reason merely by choosing.

      Your argument is fatuous.

      The entire structure of the relationship between worker and employer is based on inequitable balance of power. Workers must sell their labor to employers in order to earn the means of their survival, in order to avoid destitution, homelessness, and starvation. Employers, in turn, benefit from a disciplined and stratified working class, and from a reserve army of labor.

      The prevailing principle for workers, under the employment system, is work or die.

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        I’m not talking about seeing lots of job listings. I’m talking about the realities of recruiting personnel and the demographic and structural changes that cause those realities

        Sorry you’re having trouble, but your experience is not the broad reality. There are more jobs than people and workers haven’t been this empowered since post-WW2

        The prevailing principle for workers, under the employment system, is work or die

        There is no system in which this is not the case, and that has nothing to do with your bargaining power.

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          I’m talking about the realities of recruiting personnel and the demographic and structural changes that cause those realities

          …your experience is not the broad reality.

          You are now being dishonest, by insinuating that I have presented an argument from personal experience, and also that you have presented a structural argument.

          Both suggestions are false.

          You have given no structural argument. I have given one, and have not appealed to personal experience.

          There are more jobs than people and workers

          As I say, job openings is not relevant. A job opening is not a resource of limited supply.

          Any employer may post any number of job openings at any time, and also may eliminate any of them, at any time, and also may eliminate any job, at any time, dismissing whoever is holding it.

          Indeed, an employer may also post a job opening, and simply reject every applicant, or even ignore every one.

          There is no system in which this is not the case,

          Yes, there is, obviously. As long as distribution of basic needs is decoupled from the system of organizing labor, everyone may survive even if not providing labor.

          and that has nothing to do with your bargaining power.

          It does, completely, for reasons I already explained. Only one side of the bargaining relationship is being subjected to grave threat.