• blazera@kbin.social
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    1 year ago

    Now, do they think he failed by instituting inhumane conditions on Gaza leading to them lashing out? Or he failed by not oppressing them enough?

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      1 year ago

      Or failed by diverting almost all the border guards over to the West Bank to oppress the Palestinians there.

      But we need to how they feel about that second part…

      The official policy on Hamas was to just sort of ignore them in favor of stealing land in the West Bank.

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        The official policy on Hamas was to just sort of ignore them in favor of stealing land in the West Bank.

        Not quite, Bibi’s official policy was to continue actively undermining the Palestinian Authority so that Hamas was the only group capable of seizing power in the vacuum of Gaza.

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          Honestly, if that’s what was happening behind the scenes… what the fuck? Why?

          That’s like if us Americans undermined every single political organization in Mexico except for the Sinaloa cartel (and yeah, at this point, Sinaloa have become a criminal organization with real and serious political clout). That strategy would CLEARLY and OBVIOUSLY lead to catastrophic and deadly serious security issues on our doorstep. And that doesn’t even touch on any analogy for the whole “Arabs and Israelis have basically been at war with each other since 1948” thing.

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            There is a certain contingent on the Israeli far-right who are quite comfortable pushing Palestinians into the arms of Hamas and Iran, to better justify harsher repression. If a few hundred hippies in kibbutzim and music festivals have to die, then such is the price of revealing how inhuman (/s should be implied, but I’ll make it clear) the Palestinians are.

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              I mean, I get that, but it seems a particularly dangerous and idiotic thing to do when the militants that you’re antagonizing are, like, a few dozen or so km away from your national fucking capital

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                  I don’t think they actually think.

                  Like if we look historically at fascist actions, don’t they usually end up with multiple options and almost always choose the one that sounds powerful over actually being powerful?

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                    don’t they usually end up with multiple options and almost always choose the one that sounds powerful over actually being powerful?

                    Fascism is all about appearance, so yeah it makes sense. Doesn’t make them less dangerous, but at least you can be certain they’ll horribly shoot themselves in the foot sooner or later.

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                They literally think they’re going to kill everyone in Gaza and get away with it. They don’t care.

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                I bet for that kind of people it doesnt look so dangerous and idiotic if it’s someone else’s blood that gets spilled.

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      I don’t think people in Israel view it as a good or bad way, just by the results.

      If someone tries to sell you on less freedom, less privacy, more surveillance, and you still get attacked, then people start to wonder what was the point. Regardless of the measures taken.