original title: ‘An Insane Number of Gen Zers Support Hamas’s Slaughter of Innocent Israelis’
Hamas is the new Viet Cong. Plain and simple. They both were founded to fight for the liberation of their respective countries from neocolonalism. Hamas isn’t any more “terrorist” than Che Guevara.
Hamas is just like the original “Indian savages” who “unprovokedly attacked settlements.” “Terrorist” is a slur.
The kind of people who consider Hamas to be terrorists also likely considers Che a terrorist.
Just look at the Black Lives Matter chapter that responded to October 7 attacks by showing “solidarity” with the Palestinians, not Israel, and even positively depicting the hang gliders that were used by Hamas terrorists to kill civilians.
Why are these crackers surprised? The only colonized folk who can’t see the 1:1 parallel going on are the ones who either got caught in the Trump-flavored Sunken Place, or the mercenaries who shuck, jive, and tom for the DNC; misleading their own for pay. And honestly, after Amerika’s history of brutal colonization and continued-into-this-day genocide, they’re all on fentanyl if they think after what this nation has done to my family and my community, I’d ever cosign either their military empire-flavored neocolonialism, or Israel’s actual-lebensraum colonialism.
Lol solidarity in quotes, like even when they talk about their opponents having solidarity with each other they still have to also double-backflip remind their liberal audience that solidarity is a silly nonsense thing made up by dumb foreigners, and that real, serious, effective adults are always supposed to have a knife behind their back when they smile and shake each other’s hands, because to imagine things can be better is childish and naive (and therefore deserving of the knife I just planted in your back).
Awesome Gen-zers understanding the context and history in which an event happens unlike goldfish-brained bourgeois press “journalists”
Internet breaks through information censorship
What’s your icon
It’s two garbage cans that happen to have the Ukranian flag coloration lol
nice, I figured there was some joke I wasn’t seeing lol
I’ll fuckin support the next one too
Should make the hat of this cartoon the green bandana haha
“Do you support Hamas?” Is an insanely biased question which should not have been chosen considering Hamas is not the only liberation organizations, Israel’s war is on the Palestinian people as a whole, not just Hamas, and most people probably support Palestine but have been agressively propagandized to hate those “terrorists.” Nonetheless, glad to see my generation is so based.
This, exactly. Do I endorse Hamas’ entire political program and orientation? I don’t know Hamas intimately, or their current internal debates, or whatever, but it’s still safe to say no. I’m a secularist, an egalitarian, a socialist, etc., etc. But I recognize— as do the People’s Front for the Liberation of Palestine, for example— that Hamas currently plays a leading role in the armed resistance to the Israeli settler-colonial project in general and the occupation of Gaza in particular, as well as running all of the basic civil services (such as they exist) in Gaza.
My thoughts exactly! If ever there was a perfect case where critical support is called for, this is it. We support them specifically in their struggle to liberate Palestine and protect the people of Gaza. Beyond that it is no secret that we have a number of ideological and political disagreements with that group.
The trick that the Zionist propagandists in the western media are trying to pull is transparently clear: they are trying to equate the entire Palestinian liberation struggle with the ideology of one particular liberation group. And like everything they do, this too will backfire on them. All that this does is legitimize said group’s ideology, not discredit the Palestinian struggle. Because no sane and empathetic human being can help but side with the Palestinian cause.
ever there was a perfect case where critical support is called for, this is it.
I’ve spent the last two years critically supporting the Russian Federation, which is like the critical support version of training with ankle weights on. Hamas is a feather.
Lol, a very good analogy.
Totally agree, I have practically no qualms with Hamas compared to other organizations I critically support. This does not, however, mean my support is uncritical for I have ruthless criticism for all that exists.
That’s what “critical support” is supposed to be for - I support Hamas in their struggle against Zionism, but have critiques that I’m keeping to myself for the moment because they’re less important than defeating the Zionist entity. I’d be willing to discuss those critiques among other supporters, but when my comments are public facing and the enemy is watching they don’t get to hear my hot takes.
If only those in other leftist tendencies understood this.
It is interesting how many Western European emigrants do not understand the irony that their justification of the intentional killing of innocent people of color with the hope to kill terrorist suspects within a crowd of innocent people are the very form of terrorism are they are complaining about. I guess that media indoctrination with the hero myths did brainwash the Western European diaspora to support state terrorism against innocent civilians, but then condemn this same attacks by resistance fighters in their hypocrisy. There is also the authoritarian practice by the Western European diaspora to torture terrorist suspect until the suspect say what the torturers want them to say which contradicts their Liberal slogan of rule of law and democracy.
Generally I’ve been able to compartmentalise my insanity when reading mainstream sources pretty well. But with Gaza I just can’t take it. Even though Isreal is openly run by genocidal far-right ghouls, the idea that maybe their intention is to do ethnic cleansing doesn’t even get entertained. Eventhough they mostly agree that taking Hamas out militarily can’t be done. Do they think the Isrealis are stupid and don’t know this?
I’ll here people go on about how dangerous and crazy the Iranians and their ‘proxies’ are because they are fundamentalists. Motherfucker, that’s Isreal, that’s the US too. Israelis are literally using genocidal bible quotes to justify their actions. Maybe, just fucking maybe they want to do ethnic cleansing.
People that used to go on about how horrible the Russians were for bombing civilians will now call Isreal’s actions ‘impressive’. Fucking imperialist pigs.
I swear to God, this place is the only one I can stomach to visit for updates without it cometely ruining my day.
Oops, wrong thread but close enough.
Good. Cry more.
Tag yourself. I’m apparently “An Insane Number of Gen Zers”… Wait, that can’t be right.
It’s true, we’ve been planting surplus Gen Zers into your subconscious the whole time, you’re now several thousand of them and we’re all very proud.
I guess it does kind of explain why when I try to search for “heat blankets to help with back pain” my computer only ever shows me 14 000 simultaneous instances of the same viral TikTok Fortnite dance video.
I do get some encouragement seeing things like this, or the students protesting who didn’t back down even when their future careers were threatened.
The fact that they saw through the incredibly biased framing of the question especially.
“said they side with the terrorist group that just earlier this month purposefully targeted and slaughtered innocent civilians.”. There’s not even the hint of trying to be journalists anymore with them.To be “fair” this is in the opinion section. Their opinion is bad and wrong though.
The “opinions” section is just so they can backpedal if they need to, if they actually held opinions that the staffers at the paper disagreed with, they wouldn’t be allowed to put them there.
Intellectual integrity applies to everyone publishing shit for a general audience, even if journalistic integrity does not
Also, like, the paper is still publishing it
What we call “terrorism” is the only means provided to the Palestinians to have a voice. They literally are in a concentration camp. The world’s faux outrage shocked pikachu-face on this one is disgusting. No one would object if a chattel-slave killed his owners or a holocaust camp victim started blasting Nazis.
I’m gen X. I was fooled by the war on terror, and didn’t understand the protestors at that time who were of an age of having had lived through Vietnam. Now I know better and join in the protests today. Shame on me if I were to be fooled again. The insane propaganda we’re seeing on this Israeli genocide paralells what we saw after 9-11.
I am so proud that Gen Z isn’t repeating the mistakes of my youth and falling for the propaganda. Based Gen Z.
No one would object if a chattel-slave killed his owners or a holocaust camp victim started blasting Nazis.
Unfortunately libs absolutely would depending on the situation
I’ve definitely seen libs on Reddit say it would have been immoral for Jews to resist against the Nazis. Like, not even kill Nazis, just being obstinate against them.
Asking libs about the Haitian Revolution be like
No one would object if a chattel-slave killed his owners or a holocaust camp victim started blasting Nazis.
John Brown would like to have a word with you.
In the words of MLK, riots are the voice of the unheard.
What we call “terrorism” is the only means provided to the Palestinians to have a voice. They literally are in a concentration camp.
One point that I think is worth emphasizing with some audiences is that if we are horrified by an alleged atrocity committed by the armed wing of the Palestinian resistance movement, the only thing that can make such resistance and the excesses that may sometimes come with it unnecessary is a range of other options that are actually effective.
So if you want non-violence, do effective non-violence and prove that that it can work. Be the other half of the anti-apartheid movement that makes it possible to some day wind down the violent struggles against apartheid.
Scolding Palestinians about fighting back by the only means left to them doesn’t give them any other options. An end to military aid for Israel and a powerful, growing BDS movement potentially could. When the Palestinian resistance has more leverage and power, parties like Hamas and others will recognize that and come to the negotiating table as fighters of national liberation struggles have done in many other countries. But they have to have leverage and non-violent forms of resistance have to be viable and proven, in order for deescalation to be possible.
The insane propaganda we’re seeing on this Israeli genocide paralells what we saw after 9-11.
This is possibly an inroad for understanding among people of older generations who understand what historic crimes were committed in the US response to 9/11. Because anyone who was around and old enough then can recognize the similarities in the sound of the imperialist wardrums.
Was in same situation during ‘War on terror’. Sollowed the lies like a naive child, never again.
original title: ‘An Insane Number of Gen Zers Support Hamas’s Slaughter of Innocent Israelis’
Not pictured: The innocence of the citizens of an occupying force
BTW, the Newsweek article itself is still titled with the original title
we can get those numbers up
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Yeah that’s how wars work, the enemy gets attacked
they didn’t get this in Ukraine either
Let’s go over the poll and how bias the questions are.
ISR4: Do you think it’s true that Hamas terrorists killed 1200 Israeli civilians by shooting them, raping and beheading people including whole families, kids and babies or is that a false story?
This of course ignores the large number of military personnel killed by calling them civilians while also repeating the blood libel claim about babies.
ISR5: Do you think Hamas fighters are more appropriately called militants or terrorists?
Both of these words have a negative connotation in English normally you would use a neutral or positive word to gauge sentiment also the question above already calls them terrorists.
ISR7: Do you think Hamas is designated as a terrorist group by the U.S. government or is that not the case?
This is literally just a knowledge question but in the slides is presented as opinion. Bringing up the official designation just seems like an intentional attempt to bias any subsequent answers.
ISR15: Do you think the recent attack on Israel shows there is widespread antisemitism and hatred of Jews among Palestinians or does the attack reflect the actions of only terrorists and fundamentalists and not the will of Palestinian people?
These are the only two possibilities it couldn’t have anything to do with fighting occupiers.
Seriously, these questions are such shit. The zionists who came up with them couldn’t pretend to be neutral for one poll, and yet they still didn’t get the response they wanted.
These might be the most biased poll questions I’ve ever seen
ISR16: Do you think the recent attack on Israel was intended to provoke war and instability in the Middle East or not?
Wtf does this even mean? They attacked Israel simply because they want to see the world burn?
ISR24: Some people say Hamas and Israel both have fairly equally just causes. Others says that there is no moral equivalency between the terrorist murders of Hamas and the actions of Israel. Which is closer to your view?
“Terrorist murders” vs “actions”
ISR25: Do you think Hamas is supported by the majority of Palestinians in Gaza or is Hamas a terror group that rules the people of Gaza with force and fear and is not supported by them?
ISR26: Does Hamas hiding among civilians in Gaza show it has no interest in the safety and well-being of Palestinian citizens of the Gaza Strip, using them as human shields, or is Hamas being protected by the citizens of Gaza?
“Hamas are a bunch of sick twisted fucks who murder their own children for clout. Do you think they’re well respected?”
ISR31: Given that US intelligence and Israeli intelligence have said and shown evidence that the hospital explosion was caused by an off-course terrorist rocket do you think the explosion was caused by an Israeli airstrike or by a terrorist rocket that went off course?
61% of 18-24 year olds here said Israel caused the hospital airstrike (compared to 10% of 65+)
ISR32: Do you think that the original declarations by Hamas that Israel bombed the hospital were true or Hamas propaganda?
42% of 18-24 year olds here said Israel caused the hospital airstrike, a 19% decline. I guess the loaded language in the previous question wasn’t enough, they had to bring out the “Hamas propaganda” line
