I don’t know any true Christians who are MAGA or racists or even bigots. But with the commonly used definition that if someone says something is bad they automatically are seen as hating the people doing it many people arguing in communities like that would be called haters or bigots and possibly be banned here on lemmy.world. Even though most true Christians don’t like MAGA and hardline rights they might feel the need to create communities like r/TrueChristian oad r/AskAChristian on exploding-heads.com or similar servers because they might think that their opinions are tolerated there. What do you think?

  • vaseltarp@lemmy.worldOP
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    arrow-down
    3
    ·
    1 year ago

    I’m all for difficult questions. I’m asking if people would be silenced and banned for stating what the Bible teaches.

    • confluence@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      1 year ago

      I’m a Bible scholar. “What the Bible teaches” eludes most Christians. “What I think the Bible teaches based on my own historical-traditional interpretation” is fine. “How I approach the Bible, taking all known context into consideration” is even better. Whenever someone says, “the Bible teaches,” it’s a major red flag to me.

      • vaseltarp@lemmy.worldOP
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        0
        arrow-down
        4
        ·
        1 year ago

        What I think the Bible teaches based on my own historical-traditional interpretation” is fine.

        Whith this you are implying that you think your interpretation of the Bible is the right interpretation.

        Whenever someone says, “the Bible teaches,” it’s a major red flag to me.

        Is it only a red flag when others say they know what the Bible teaches or also when you say it?

        • confluence@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          3
          ·
          1 year ago

          By “I’m a scholar,” I mean I have an MA and 12 years of experience studying the historical contexts and literary history of the textual witnesses, and the history of conversation on cosmology and it’s influence on the history of interpretation. I know just enough to know I know very little, which is why you’ll never, ever hear me say something as ridiculous as “The Bible Teaches <insert dogmatic statement>.” Overconfidence in one’s own interpretation without all context (which none of us have) is a red flag in ANY field, let alone one so close to our limbic needs.

          • vaseltarp@lemmy.worldOP
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            0
            arrow-down
            4
            ·
            edit-2
            1 year ago

            you’ll never, ever hear me say something as ridiculous as “The Bible Teaches

            But you did exactly that, you just worded it a little differently. You implied that you know what the Bible teaches and it is quote “fine”.

            • Suprchunk@kbin.social
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              1 year ago

              When words are in quotes they are as if another person is saying them. OP wasn’t actually stating that as their own.

              • vaseltarp@lemmy.worldOP
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                1
                arrow-down
                1
                ·
                1 year ago

                OK I think I now understand your comment better. I overlooked the quotes. Sorry.