• Naja Kaouthia@lemmy.worldEnglish
        31·
        2 年前

        Truth. I thought the show turned Naomi and Holden into twats but they did a pretty good job with Chrisjen. I’m still mad about the Arjun bamboozle. Arjun 1 is best Arjun.

        • Madison420@lemmy.worldBanned from communityEnglish
          29·
          2 年前

          Yeah they chose weird edges to soften. Make Amos less intimidating and batshit? No sir, my boy is supposed to be a crayon eater restrained just barely by Naomi, Holden or his love for children.

        • schmidtster@lemmy.worldEnglish
          19·
          2 年前

          I feel like most of it comes from the lack of forced perspective in the show. You never really see stuff from certain characters angles like you do in the book.

          The show could only show a generic third person perspective, you never really got holdens insights from the chapters from his perspective, or Naomi’s from hers. So they kinda blurred together in the show I found.

          • Naja Kaouthia@lemmy.worldEnglish
            12·
            2 年前

            This is a good point. We never get that internal monologue from Holden like in the books. In the first season, at least, I feel Ike they stripped out that key component from Holden’s personality where he would talk before he would fight.

        • teft@startrek.websiteEnglish
          16·
          2 年前

          Brian George Dr Bashir’s dad is a gem. I wish he had stayed as Arjun. That new guy felt so off.

  • Troy@lemmy.caEnglish
    52·
    2 年前

    She is pretty much the best character on the show by virtue of being the best cast actor. Wow what a good choice. I give a close second to Amos.

    • BillyTheSkidMark@lemm.eeEnglish
      14·
      2 年前

      Thomas Jane was also fantastic. Same with Jared Harris. Shame they couldn’t secure him for later appearances, his character is great and he did the belta accent so well.

        • CADmonkey@lemmy.worldEnglish
          3·
          2 年前

          He really is. He was great as Moriarty opposite Robert Downey jr., and he killed it as Valery Legasov in Chernobyl.

          EDIT: He also had a short bit in a show called “Carnival Row”, I’d almost forgotten.

    • funkless_eck@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      101·
      2 年前

      interesting. I haven’t engaged in any online dialog about the expanse so maybe this is a super unpopular opinion but I felt the actor seemed really uncomfortable with the swearing and didn’t start off as that kind of character and just weirdly changed one episode

      Amos on the other hand was incredible. He, Drummer, Draper and Miller really carried that show.

  • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldEnglish
    391·
    2 年前

    I like how every modern Star Trek show just ignores the silly idea that everyone has given up swearing in the 23rd and 24th century.

    • gregorum@lemm.eeEnglish
      42·
      2 年前

      Most trek shows were on primetime network television. Once they went to streaming, the swearing came back. 

      Although, even during the primetime network era, we got plenty of alien swearwords, mostly in Klingon. One or two in Romulan.

      • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldEnglish
        12·
        2 年前

        Yeah, but that was said in a movie where they could potentially have sweared as much as they wanted to. Or at least acknowledged that ‘dumbass’ wouldn’t be some shocking thing to a guy from the future.

        • gregorum@lemm.eeEnglish
          7·
          2 年前

          True, however, we did get Data blurting out, “Oh, shit!” when Troi crashed the Enterprise saucer section into Veridian III in Star Trek: Generations.

        • WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.worldEnglish
          5·
          2 年前

          Yeah, it’s like the transporters. They were originally made due to the limitations of making a TV show (budget didn’t allow a landing sequence every episode) but they’ve become an established part of the universe now.

        • gregorum@lemm.eeEnglish
          6·
          2 年前

          SNW is getting better with its sense of humor.

          Now, PIC… apparently, the 25th century is the century of the potty mouth! It’s old man Picard and old man Riker dropping f-bombs left and right. Even old lady Seven getting in on the fun.

        • Pope-King Joe@lemmy.worldEnglish
          5·
          2 年前

          My favorite instance of swearing is in one of the TNG movies (can’t remember which one cuz it’s been forever) when the Enterprise is going down and Data looks up at the viewscreen and the land is coming up fast and he just shouts “Oh shiiiiiit!”

      • Hasuris@sopuli.xyzEnglish
        82·
        2 年前

        I like the old shows more because everyone acts appropriately to their rank and station. In the new shows a captain can go like “fuck this ima go punch someone and act super emotional and irrational” because that’s what a star fleet captain or anyone star fleet would actually do.

        Right. And nobody cares because he’s the best man for the job for some reason.

        • gregorum@lemm.eeEnglish
          92·
          2 年前

          I also miss professionals exploring space, solving problems with science and diplomacy, engaged in intriguing stories that explored the complex moral and ethical issues of the day instead of just blowing shit up all the time and with some superficial lip-service pandering to certain social issues just to appease fans but without much more lasting presence than mere tokenism and self back-patting for the effort.

          • gens@programming.devEnglish
            2·
            2 年前

            Maybe that’s why i like voyager. Professionals trown into a hard situation. Although the maki were basically star fleet by episode 3.

            • gregorum@lemm.eeEnglish
              1·
              2 年前

              DSC: you want trans people to be seen in Trek? How about we make the only trans character a fucking ghost so they’re only visible to the only enby person in the galaxy, further isolating them both! How’s that for ‘being seen’? And, of course, because they’re both LGBTQ characters, they have to be in a tortured relationship. Sigh…

              The queer characters in that show were written as queer first and people second, resulting in them just coming off as token caricatures rather than solid characters that feel like real people.

    • MadMadBunny@lemmy.caEnglish
      12·
      2 年前

      The lack of swearing wasn’t originally part of the “utopian ideal”, it was in fact censorship from the broadcasters.

  • Wanderer@lemm.eeEnglish
    18·
    2 年前

    I hate her so much she was almost enough to stop watching my favourite show.

    Her voice and her character are terribly grating.