Hey all. I’d like to open an official discussion regarding the upturning of the prior Hexbear party line on an :israel-cool: emote proper with the unambiguous Zionist flag.

I want to preface this by saying this is not in a ‘ceding the issue’ way. Over the past year I’ve been trying to engage in self-crit w/rt the chauvinism I’ve internalized growing up in a Liberal Zionist household, and my personal viewpoint on it did a 180 some months back, so I want to reopen this discussion proper in my personal capacities as Self-Appointed Emote Czar.

The reason it’s taken long enough beyond that is prior to July, I was essentially half-engaged with the site in order to finish out my degree. After that, it’s been mostly inertia of confirming with the admins and other /c/Judaism mods, as well as having to be rigorous about my job search personally giving me little free time to coordinate this.

I do not want to center myself in this conversation more than I inadvertently already have, so I will leave my own opinion on the issue as a comment rather than explaining further here.

The consensus we’ve roughly come to is to open up the discussion in an official manner for a day or so. After that, I’ll weigh the discussion in an entirely vibes-based manner (sorry Dean Norris enjoyers) and we’ll alter Hexbear party line on it accordingly.

lea-bounce

  • Keld [he/him, any]@hexbear.net
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    11 months ago

    I would like us to try and discuss the other topics without getting too hostile at each other please

    The worst offenders here are mods and admins though.

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        11 months ago

        and it worked. You’re fixing the fucking problem.

        1000 posters being nice and no change.

        Me being an asshole and suddenly problem solved

    • CARCOSA [mirror/your pronouns]@hexbear.net
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      11 months ago

      They were not speaking as the mod/admin team but rather themselves and since the post was seeking input from everyone they responded. In the mod channels I’ve asked for the same thing I asked here

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        11 months ago

        Oh so when I lodged an official complaint with mods about Nakoichi making suicide baiting and death threats and they hemmed and hawed that was just their personal opinion? Even though I specifically requested to speak with a moderator to lodge a complaint?

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            11 months ago

            Then why was I never made aware of this, never apologize to, and the mod I brought it up to just did some cop-talk dodging it and that was it?

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              11 months ago

              I don’t know who you brought it up to, honestly there is a consistent churn and addition of mods and admins. I don’t think we have made a habit of announcing who is on or not on the admin team due to the specific and actionable death threats made to us as a result of doxxing.

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                11 months ago

                It was in the news comm to the thousand_snakes fellow, who hemmed and hawed and said I was seeing things and then did nothing. I received no further response. It’s been linked in the em_poc thread.

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                  11 months ago

                  Thank you for mentioning that I went and read that thread as well as the others on this topic, I’ve forwarded this to the mod chat to discuss. Reading the comments between your alt and Nakoichi that they misread your comment thinking you were placing BE on the same level as those other people and responded with the removed comment telling you to touch grass 6 ft under. That violates the CoC, especially holding moderators to a higher standard. We will be discussing this and taking action