ClientException: Request failed with status 400: Bad Request: (“type”:“https:VV tools.ietf.org/htmlV rfc2616#section-10”,“title”:“An error occurred”,“status”:400,“detail”:“Bad Request”), uri=https://kbin.earth/api/ magazine/1/posts

Any hints what’s up? Is my post too long?

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    Pretty sure error code 400 in this case means there was something wrong with either the post body, lang or isAdult fields. lang and isAdult should just be set to their defaults so they’re unlikely to be the problem.

    How long approximately was your post? I’m unsure what the maximum length allowed is but if it was very long that is most likely the issue. It might be worth splitting it and putting part of it into a comment under the post. Hopefully it was saved into the drafts so you don’t have to type it out again.

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      welp, I tried to post it all in a comment and got the sameerror, broke it into two and was able to post, must be a length limit. I didn’t think there was one, but I guess I hit the “no really mbin isn’t for blogs” cap. Makes me sad really, guess I do need to spin up that indieweb site I keep musing on.

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        Yep, your text is too long. Below the textarea (left corner) is a counter which shows you how much chars you used and how much the maximum is. Here the max is 5000.
        I’m surprised it let you submit the post and not show an error with an proper message.

        I can see why it troubles you. But on the other hands admins and devs need to set limits to prevent bad actors from using up the server resources with just a few requests. I’m sure that there are other Fediverse platforms which allow much larger text, so these might be something for you (or your host your own as your said).

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      Hey @Julian@acrivitypub.space I have been looking around at community platforms for a bit and I think your comment about forums fading out to Discord/chat engines is pointing at something people are struggling with.

      Fundamentally the difference between a Forum and a Chat Server is the social anticipation of persistence vs ephemerality in terms of conversation.

      In Forums people post for posterity, declaring a subject for discussion and anticipating others will join the conversation now but also later, and the thread will become a reference point. Sub-forums declare the permissable context for threads within them to creat structure end encourage new thread creation, while building a segmented index. Many forum users of the old school frown on new users creating threads for subjects addressed by prior threads rather than searching for and reading then joining in on prior threads on the topic. For this reason, and the old school way that most forums only load comments upon pull/refresh rather than live, people who seek immediacy do not feel welcome or satisfied with the old school Forum experience.

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        Enter Chat Servers, while chatrooms always coexisted with forums, Chat Servers like Discord took the step of applying the segmentation feature of sub-forums as channels to the chatroom live-load environment. This means that people join a community and immediately are given context for what content is encouraged and where to go to discuss it, but under the implicit understanding that the other members of the community will be responsive to questions here and now, and that they won’t get pushback from asking questions that have been asked before. Now with the Threads features, these conversations can be forked off temporarily out of the main channel as ephemeral venues for discussion without cross-talk while still being publicly available unlike a DM. This solved one of the main downsides to the live-load chatrooms for information dense subjectmatter.

        Speaking of information-dense subject matter, let’s not forget that other online community repository of knowledge and sometimes community the wiki. The wiki went the other direction from the forum, saying let’s skip the communication context and go straight to the information exchange, development, and repository. Why bring up the wiki? Well it feeds into something I sense on the horizon.

        Looking to fill my own needs, and in a context I know many many people share, I have a special interest group that needs a platform for periodic live interaction, persistent asynchronous conversation, and condensing and cataloging reference information. I have found some tools like Discourse, as well as Node BB, that have chat features built in, but frankly hide them away as secondary options. In navigating the Node BB Community forum itself there was not a chat to be found, what does that say?

        What am I getting at? All these community tools are at their root social technologies, the software layer is just an enabler. The technology is the way of thinking about how to communicate, the social norms supported by the infrastructure, and the user interaction sequence to situate, sort, identify, unveil, and interact with other users and the information they share. Is there an integrated social technology that fully bridges the divide between ephemeral and persistent content in a way that the user can fluidly navigate between them? I think there could be, and we are closer than ever.

        Think of this, a man named U seeks knowledge of how to solve a problem. U enters the private space of a group of sage scholars, sitting a well stocked library containing many writings on the subjects of their various expertise, an index of these works lies at a desk by the door, the scholars sit at their tables writing or in rooms in oiveky discussion. What should U do? Should he go straight to a scholar and interupt their work to ask about his problem? Should he review the index of the library to see if his problem has been written about before? Now here comes the perfect thing: an asstistant. The assistant does something unexpected, they ask “please begin writing your question, I will provide you information I think may be relevant and also tell you which scholar has written on similar problems and where to find them”. Well, that seems simple enough, I writes out his problem and soon has several manuscripts on hand, names of the most relevant scholars, and room numbers where they might be found discussing similar matters.

        Is this the ideal fusion of ephemeral and persistent communications? I don’t know, but I’d like to find out. Not a chat to that substitutes for a person in conversation, but rather one that notes your intentions and provides direct access to threads, pages, and people who are relevant. Paired with that a text box that can dynamically send both the users writing at any time, and links to the surfaced content, to any of several venues including forum threads, chatrooms, a private notes server, a new public page/wiki, or even a post onto a social platform. One point of entry, many venues, and a dynamic assistant to facilitate search with fewer user interactions to reach the most relevant venue for the purpose of the moment.

        What do you think? Could this be where we are heading? And can this be a community platform, or will it inevitably be the way others like Anthropic seem to be steering it with Comet (and Google with Chrome), as a dynamic AI browser? Probably both I’m thinking, but I haven’t run into to community platform yet, while the browsers are starting to ramp up quick.

        #forums #chat #AI