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Update This change is done. Images are now hosted on S3 storage and uploads are re-enabled.

  • Draconic NEO@lemmy.worldEnglish
    5·
    11 months ago

    Want to say this because the release notes make it perfectly clear. Instance blocking is not and cannot be considered an alternative to defederation.

    Users can now block instances. Similar to community blocks, it means that any posts from communities which are hosted on that instance are hidden. However the block doesn’t affect users from the blocked instance, their posts and comments can still be seen normally in other communities.

    Not a replacement for defederation, it’s still needed to keep instances healthy. Plus the fact that Lemmy doesn’t really even have blocks, they’re just mutes called blocks (which are only useful under the assumption that the blocked account is innocent, and the blocker is just having a fit or doesn’t have credibility), if we had a way to restrict malicious users then I would say being more hands off isn’t that bad but as it stands there isn’t so defederation and moderation is still important and can’t be substituted with blocking.

    • Rooki@lemmy.world
      2·
      11 months ago

      But for those “I hate that instance BLOCK IT!!! FOR MURICA!!!” A instance wide defederation is too much. But for those really bad like csam or racist, radical instances it is the best to defederate.

      • Draconic NEO@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        11 months ago

        That is a fair point, and I would agree if the only people calling for threads defederation were the snowflakes (the overly sensative opininated users you speak of). However many people have highlighted important reasons why threads federation isn’t a good idea.

        Reasons such as:

        • Embrace Extend Extinguish Concerns (Already discussed in great detail elsewhere I won’t beat a dead horse)
        • Facebook has a very bad track record when it comes to shady and malicious practices
        • Facebook has a very poor track record when it comes to effectively moderating spam and hate speech

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        So while there are some bad and dumb reasons people argue for defederation there are legitimate concerns over this and threads.

        Side note (also a bit of a rant):

        I feel like the sensitive snowflake users ruin it for people who have legitimate and valid concerns, they undermine efforts to make spaces better because people are so used to dealing with them that when a person brings up something that could be a problem or should be addressed the default response is to dismissively just tell them to block users or instances, under the assumption that a user is one of those snowflakes. (It happened back with the Rammy situation, when the user posted to alert the fediverse that their instance was rogue).

        Personally I feel like there should be more severity when it comes to users who make false/opinionated claims so that any claims in general aren’t treated as false or non-credible by default, but I also realize that would be difficult given the size of the instance and also isn’t really my pace to decide since I’m not responsible for user moderation outside of my own communities or ones I mod in.

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        Just some things to think about. Also sorry for the late response, been having trouble on my Lemmy app. I guess better late than never though (lot of times it is never when I’m late to check or respond).

        • Rooki@lemmy.world
          2·
          11 months ago

          We will see. We will be of course not cu ksu king if we see a lot of just spam, hate or just ads to “Come over to threads” ads in any way we will look into defedarating them.