• GeeDubHayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    2 days ago

    I thought we hated “toxic masculinity.” So, why are we giving the most toxically masculine Disney character EVER a full movie?

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    3 days ago

    The only way this could possibly be good is Taika Watiti directing, have it starring Chris Hemsworth as Gaston, Rhys Darby as LeFou, and make it a subversive takedown of alpha male culture.

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    3 days ago

    Why? Whhhyyy? Gaston doesn’t need to be redeemed. He’s enjoyable because he wasn’t evil, just wrong and… stupid. Small chunks. He does not need to be made it o anything else. Ughhhh

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    It’s one hour and forty five minutes long and it’s just a bunch of savage rapes followed by a gruesome snuff scene and then the credits rolled. No music aside from a jaunty tune during the cheery opening credits and a similarly jaunty song during the ending credits.

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    Of course they are. All Disney does is recycle existing IP. Cartoon/musical cartoon/stage musical/live action non musical film/live action film musical/spin off/re-imagining/sequel/prequel…

    Lather. Rinse. Repeat.

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    3 days ago

    Meh, I have no faith Disney will responsibly handle the screamingly obvious gay subtext to Gaston and LeFou. At best, some coy hints at it while staying minimal enough they don’t have to cross the MAGA nuts

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      Aside from the one or two throwaway lines in the live-action Beauty and the Beast, I never got that feeling from them. Maybe I just also haven’t seen the animated movie in about 20-25 years or so.

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      3 days ago

      Lol looks like Vanth crossed the MAGA nuts! Downvoting this is some reddit behavior 🤣

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        3 days ago

        Those MAGA nuts can’t touch my chill. I exist on an instance that has downvotes disabled.

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    3 days ago

    Cruella was a pretty good film, but for a few over the top ridiculous Dalmatians scenes, but it was overall a fun film.

    I never saw Maleficent, but it got a sequel, so it was probably at least OK.

    A Gaston film, presumably young Gaston film, could be interesting. I assume some percentage of the town he lives in probably worked or had a close relationships with people in the castle. If they just disappeared one day, or if Gaston was brought in from afar to save/protect the little town, there is plenty of room for story there.

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      I’ve held the belief that (for his time) Gaston was a good guy.

      He liked Belle, when the rest of the town said she was weird for reading.

      He’s clearly respected throughout the region.

      The beast (after being cursed for being a dick to strangers in need) did kidnap an old man and then did a prisoner swap for a girl he intended to groom into a sexual partner.

      When the kidnapped man returns to the village and everyone refuses to believe him, Gaston does and leads the charge to rescue his daughter.

      The fact that Belle was successfully love bombed and groomed doesn’t make Gaston wrong for coming to rescue her from this rich noble that was kidnapping people.

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        He liked Belle, when the rest of the town said she was weird for reading.

        He thinks she’s weird for reading too, he just thinks she’s pretty enough to make up for that “oddity”

        He’s clearly respected throughout the region.

        He’s feared because he’s the strongest and has money

        The beast (after being cursed for being a dick to strangers in need) did kidnap an old man and then did a prisoner swap for a girl he intended to groom into a sexual partner

        Gaston wants to make Belle quit all her reading and tinkering and inventing and turn her into a breeding sow

        When the kidnapped man returns to the village and everyone refuses to believe him, Gaston does and leads the charge to rescue his daughter.

        He pretends to believe Belle’s dad initially to manufacturer good will, then tries to murder him in the woods in an effort to get rid of the last roadblock keeping him from Belle. Failing that, he uses his “influence” with the town to have Belle’s dad committed to an insane asylum (without any semblance of a trial) when he comes back and accuses Gaston of murder. He doesn’t believe that a beast had kidnapped Belle until he sees the magic mirror.

        The fact that Belle was successfully love bombed and groomed doesn’t make Gaston wrong for coming to rescue her from this rich noble that was kidnapping people.

        Gaston incited a riot, an honest-to-goodness grab-your-pitchfork-and-torches mob, to retrieve what he viewed as his property. Yes, the beast is a spoiled, bratty, sexual grooming noble, but Gaston is also a massive piece of shit dude.

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          The live action movie made that more obvious, but the animated film he’s less awful. And everything else is standard for the time.

          If you are gonna confront a noble, its gotta be a mob or nothing.

          An asylum for “crazy old maurice” vs declaring him possessed by the devil and killed is pretty forward thinking for French peasants.

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            One of the main points of the original movie is that nearly everyone in the town is an asshole because they think Belle is weird. Gaston also thinks Belle is weird. The only difference is he also wants to bang her, and pursues her relentlessly even though Belle makes it very clear she wants nothing to do with him. Gaston is a creep.

            If Gaston wanted to confront a noble, he’d do so using his military/political ties. If he wanted to send a bunch of peasants to their deaths, he’d whip up a mob.

            An asylum then was probably worse than death. Forward thinking my ass, if Gaston was a good person he would have at bare minimum heard Maurice out and tried to help him.

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      Agreed - I have not the slightest interest in Disney’s live action direct remakes, but I don’t mind seeing more “villain’s perspective” stories. They at least offer something a little different than what we’ve already seen. Maleficent was pretty solid as well, though the sequel was a big disappointment for me.