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Y’know, when I was a kid growing up and reading Dune for the first time, I thought the Butlerian Jihad was such a silly concept. Why would we as a species go on a crusade against AI so powerful that it would remain banned thousands of years later, especially in a setting that could really use AI assistance to handle space travel?
Now? I get it, and that kinda total societal rejection of AI as a concept seems to kinda be what Mike was talking towards. We need a Butlerian Jihad.
Thought this was a really good discussion all in all, although I wish they had spent a bit more time on the issue that really worries me.
It’s not so much that people might believe things that aren’t true (which is still a worry). It’s that people will start refusing to believe things that ARE true, based entirely on their belief (or claimed belief) that what they are seeing may/must be AI generated.
If that kind of things starts to take hold, IMO we risk chaos, a collapse of legal/political systems, etc. People already question the legitimacy of elections, but I worry that this could get so much worse.
We’re already there, based on nothing but ‘because I say so.’ Conservatism is interpersonal loyalty as a theory-of-everything. It’s humanity’s instinctive tribalism, wearing the language of modernity.
Honestly the fake videos might help, because it lets outsiders go ‘oh you got tricked by obvious bullshit’ instead of stroking their chin and asking ‘but what do they really believe?’ By definition, conservatives do not believe things. They believe people.
RLM should recognize how much weird shit this tech allows. It’s CGI for dummies and it can look any kind of way. If someone types in “Batman fights Predator,” sure, fuck that, because they didn’t even contribute a clever idea. But diffusion removes all the pixels that don’t look like Batman. The same tech lets two people in dollar-store costumes fight in someone’s backyard, then make it look like a rainy night on the streets of Gotham.
Or they could act out five characters each for an interwar period drama.
Or they could adapt Ringworld with its goofy nonhuman characters.
Or they could recreate lost episodes of Doctor Who.
All for approximately zero dollars, with nobody’s permission. These guys can scoff ‘you could already make anything!’ but they mean anything that looks like Gorilla Interrupted. This tech can half-ass Marvel or Pixar quality without even trying. The tools produce decent lighting and animation the way a pencil produces stick figures.
This will of course eat Hollywood alive. Disney can sue all they like; local models are in people’s hands. Any fanfiction can now look damn close to the real thing. Original works can star anyone - or no one. That one schmuck’s “digital actress” OC is just another cartoon. If anyone can put a generic hot lady on camera, in any scenario they imagine, who the fuck is choosing to have her endorse soap?
All for approximately zero dollars,
No offence but this is short-sighted
For models already made, ongoing costs are like playing a video game.
The cost of training new models has been distorted from the beginning, because scale prevents competition. DeepSeek proved LLMs could be at least two orders of magnitude cheaper… and the Americans pretended not to notice, because the charade is more important to the bubble. If it popped tomorrow there’d still be institutions and hobbyists innovating in ways that prove being large was never required.
This is a whole new kind of software. We shouldn’t obsess over what VC dipshits are prepared to spend as if that’s the only sane budget to achieve these results.
You raise some interesting points that I’ll have to ponder further.
