We, the admin team, decry all forms of settler-colonialism, and we recognize that Zionism is a pro-settler-colonialist position.

Therefore we propose that should no longer be accepting of any Zionist accounts on our instances.

Please upvote for agree, downvote for disagree.

Note: we only count votes by instance members of dbzer0 and anarchist.nexus, plus a few vouched-for external users.

Hi mateys, I’ve kept things simple in the above text, for brevity, but in fact it took the admin team quite a while to get to this stage. We have discussed the policy change extensively, and a variety of different perspectives emerged. I will attempt to sum them up below as best I can:

  • The “this isn’t that complicated” school of thought goes something like this: If someone is consistently posting comments that mirror Hasbara talking points (e.g. justifying the genocide in Gaza, consistently painting Palestinians as terrorists and Israel as the victim), then they should be instance banned. It’s just not acceptable for Zionists to be allowed on our instances.

  • The “slippery slope” / “purity test” school of thought is that banning people for having an “unpopular” political opinion would potentially mean banning half the fediverse, if more and more of these policies were enacted over time. To attempt to mitigate this we are keeping the scope of this rule as narrow as possible, and I also don’t think many of our users will be affected. Also, we typically don’t have frequent policy changes, and I have no reason to expect that to change moving forward.

  • Another important discussion point was “how do we decide whether someone is pro-Zionist or not?” We can’t always be 100% sure of someone’s true intentions, we can only go on what they have posted and that is subject to interpretation. I don’t feel there is an easy answer to this one, except to say that we would have to be pretty certain before issuing a perma-ban.

  • The “geopolitics don’t matter” school of thought is that trying to be on the “correct” side of every issue is kind of pointless because nothing that happens in lemmy chat forums will ever make an ounce of difference in the real world. Don’t bother moderating users over political/ideological differences, just let people argue if they want. While I can totally empathize with this sentiment, I can also see the case for taking a clear stance on this topic in accordance with our values and the overwhelming support for the Palestinian cause among our users. Personally, I am advocating in favor of the resolution.

Please add your comments below if you want to provide your own thoughts on the topic, or have any questions.

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    • Clot@lemmy.zipEnglish
      101·
      3 days ago

      Nothing like that happens. Jews arent some exception to how other minorities are treated in different countries. This jewish exceptionalism is dangerous. If they are being mistreated maybe they along with other progressive forces of the said nation demand safety and rights instead of going on someone else’s land doing bloodshed there.

            • Deceptichum@quokk.auEnglish
              3·
              2 days ago

              And what country do you live in champ? I’d love to know how badly Jewish people are treated where you are that justifies the existence of a racist ethnostate.

                • Deceptichum@quokk.auEnglish
                  2·
                  2 days ago

                  Because frankly antisemitism these days is a often wildly exaggerated claim, being pushed by racists to justify their atrocities.

                  Now I certainly cannot think of anywhere in Europe where antisemitism is so bad as to require a whole separate place for Jewish people to need to go to as you say, so as far as I’m aware you’re full of shit.

                  Now where are you, seeing as you’re the one pushing the talking point of “where I am it’s so bad that they need somewhere to go”.