• archonet@lemy.lol
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    Remember, if you want to go through body armor, you’ll either have a hell of a time finding AP ammo, need to hand-load your own, or – the economical, thinking man’s choice – have 12 gauge slugs*. Buckshot and regular FMJ will not cut it unless you’re more confident in your shot placement under pressure than I am (in which case, aim for the face or the groin, but not center mass)

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      Personally, I think 00 and 000 buckshot would do fine. The spread may allow even an barely trained shooter to wing a limb or neck, which tend to be unarmored. You don’t need a instantly fatal wound, just one that incapacitates.

      The important thing is to have a shotgun that affords you the ability to fire two or three times on demand, just in case the other ICE decide to fight rather than fly.

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      If they are close enough to me to film as close as I’ve seen, I feel like they’re close enough for face shots?

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          If something doesn’t happen before the elections, something will be orchestrated.

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          True but I think that ICE will stop going into houses very quickly if a few point guys get smoked. They’re willing to kill but are they willing to die? I don’t think they are.

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            Perhaps, perhaps they will fucking bomb them instead, or simply find more meatheads, some arrogant enough to attack anyways.

            An organized effort by the state will not be stopped by random acts of heroism. There must some kind of organized resistance. Perhaps actions that would be classified as terrorism and I 'd rather not get more into it or I 'll probably get banned from .world.

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            Fuck direct confrontations. These small-dick losers are babies with axes to grind. If we can learn the intended target, boobytrap that shit. Do some Home Alone shit, for real. Cover them in Nickelodeon slime and feathers. Better yet, borrow a page from Mark Robert and make sure they can never use their equipment without sparkling like the special little boys they are when you unload glitter bombs all over them.

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              Calm down. I live by myself and have no kids and no one is asking you to make your 10-year old hide in a corner with a rifle pointed a door.

              ICE running into another Micah Xavier Johnson is matter of when not if.

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        While getting fired upon in return (which you presumably will be, immediately, if you’re telling them to fuck off or be shot and they’re not fucking off)?

        Heads are small targets and hard to hit if they’re moving, and they move a lot even when the body they’re attached to is not actively trying to dodge gunfire. If you want to take out more than just the one you surprise, I would strongly recommend something that can punch holes in body armor – if you’re gonna go down this route, go down with >1 KDR.