Some people don’t believe me when I try to warn them about the content creator grift. I don’t care, I’m coming for all of them if they start spouting shit like this to their audience. They have a responsibility towards their viewers.

Second time I see him tweet shit like this.

At this point he should just stop pretending he’s any sort of leftist. His mental health will thank him.

archive link so he can’t scrub it off the internet: https://archive.ph/XWZD6 (still loading as of posting but should be ready eventually)

  • amemorablename@lemmygrad.ml
    111·
    2 months ago

    I don’t generally try to operate on hate, myself. Except maybe for the most obvious exploiters of the world, but then it’s more incidental hate as a result of finding out what horrific shit they’ve done, than an active preoccupied effort to hate. Hating someone takes energy. I’d rather put my energy into working out how to dismantle systems of oppression.

    I am suspicious of people who purport to be on the left and say stuff like he did though. I feel I have good reason to be, given the history of internet-based “leftists” who are bad at sticking to a clear ideological line. It’s possible he can be corrected on this and change his ways, but his position as e-celeb (however small the level of celebrity may be) makes it harder to directly engage in criticism with him, as peers. So we have to correct and warn people as we can.

    • sousmerde_rtrdataire@lemmygrad.ml
      111·
      2 months ago

      As i said in another comment, he most likely doesn’t really believe that people are born to be far-right, it’s more of an insult saying that they were born with some innate cerebral deficiency, and that otherwise they couldn’t possibly develop such p.o.v.
      If i’m not mistaken he’s often shitposting, it’s an insult, that’s all, not that deep, nor someone calling covertly for eugenics.

      Anyway, if you don’t suddenly hate him now, then ok, i probably overreacted and should have ignored that post.

      • amemorablename@lemmygrad.ml
        111·
        2 months ago

        This sounds a lot like the “schrodinger’s douchebag” excuse:

        One who makes douchebag statements, particularly sexist, racist or otherwise bigoted ones, then decides whether they were “just joking” or dead serious based on whether other people in the group approve or not.

        A person who decides if they were being ironic or not base on how people react to it

        https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=schrodinger’s+douchebag

        Anyway, insults are not just insults. They carry ideology with them. If I were to use a slur against you, it would be carrying water for the ideology of that slur, even if I don’t actively believe in it myself.

            • sousmerde_rtrdataire@lemmygrad.ml
              114·
              2 months ago

              Do they really care though if i use the word stupid instead of ret*arded ?
              Is r*tard some kind of official name to designate them unlike stupid, like jew, dwarf, or n*gger, hence why it shouldn’t be used in the context of an insult ?

              Well, w/e, ok then, it’s not as if i had any problem with the “mentally challenged” minority.

          • amemorablename@lemmygrad.ml
            11·
            2 months ago

            Yep, that would be a problem. Directing it at rightists doesn’t give it the characteristics of leftism. It’s still got the rightist stench clinging to it. This is why it’s so important to interrogate reflexes even long after conscious beliefs change. Our habits do not change overnight based on what we believe in.

            • sousmerde_rtrdataire@lemmygrad.ml
              19·
              2 months ago

              Yeah, ok, we’re different from the right because we’re differing on some goals AND on some means.
              Furthermore, the far-right is just mistaken, everyone makes mistakes, obviously, it’s not a genetic problem.

              But i find it funny when he says that they’re innately ret*rded, 🤷

              W/e, i won’t take more of your time

              • amemorablename@lemmygrad.ml
                7·
                2 months ago

                Why is it funny to you though? Keep in mind that the connotations of that word are tied to marginalization and caricature. It’s possible you find a caricature funny without realizing that it’s a harmful and hurtful representation of people who have never actually existed in the caricature form, in order to justify marginalizing them. In other words, it may be the joke is on you for thinking you’re looking down on someone and you’re laughing at a specter that was created to justify oppression.

                We don’t need to be ableist in order to laugh at the right sometimes. I’ll tell you something I think is funny, when the consequences of their bullshit come back to bite them, like alluded to here: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/10509392

                • sous-merde@lemmygrad.mlBanned
                  23·
                  2 months ago

                  You’re right, if other people than the ones i’m aiming the insult at are also hurt, then i shouldn’t hurt them, we can do better indeed.
                  But that kind of internet trial in his back didn’t please me, as i said before i should have just ignored the post.

                  It was sincerely very nice talking with you, thanks a lot :) !