• buerviper@lemmy.world
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    14 days ago

    They also just introduced one of the main characters of TNG in season 4, even referencing a TNG movie. It is wild to assume Star Trek was never self-referential lol

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      14 days ago

      Voyager referenced or included TOS and TNG characters in at least eight episodes of season 3.

      • “Flashback” was the big Sulu/Rand/Kang 30th anniversary tribute
      • “Death Wish” had Q and Riker
      • In “Alliances” Tuvok talks about Spock and recaps the events of Undiscovered Country
      • McCoy was mentioned in “Lifesigns”
      • Data was mentioned in “Prototype”
      • Sulu was mentioned in “Tattoo”
      • Picard and Moriarty were mentioned in “Alter Ego”
      • Picard was mentioned again in “Scorpion”

      That’s basically a third of the season, assuming I didn’t forget any. And that’s not even counting things like the mention of Wolf 359 in “Unity” or the koon-ut-kal-if-fee in “Blood Fever”.

      And that’s from the show that went out of their way to make it hard to use existing concepts.

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        17 hours ago

        Don’t forget the very first episode literally having Harry and Paris in Quarks Bar, and talking to Quark on DS9 before Voyager heads to the Badlands.

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          12 hours ago

          I was mainly using season 3 as an example, but fair point that they were referencing other shows from episode 1.

          Heck, one of the first characters to speak on the show was Gul Evek, who had appeared in several episodes of DS9 and TNG starting with “Playing God” when he refused to help O’Brien with the voles.