My wife and I have name for people like this: Argo. (Another Responsible Gun Owner). Argo always thinks they are right. Argo will defend the second amendment. Argo definitely checked the chamber and the gun is totally not loaded. Argo has accidents sometimes.
You sound like Argo. Argo always says these things and when you talk to the people who knew Argo they’ll tell you how Argo never seemed to be unsafe with a weapon.
This guy was a huge piece of shit, as evidenced by the things he said to his daughter before murdering her. You pinning this down as just another case of “guns inherently bad” takes the agency away from this guy, who seems to have been routinely weird about his daughter before he eventually murdered her. His problem wasn’t that he had guns, or that he was an alcoholic, his problem was that he either A) wanted to scare his daughter into agreeing with him by making her think he was going to kill her, or B) wanted to kill his daughter for disagreeing with him.
He could have murdered his daughter without a gun, he could have avoided murdering his daughter despite having a gun. How many people do you attribute not murdering per day to that fact that you just haven’t got a gun?
Look, cops have guns, lots of them, so by my assessment we should at least have some people that actually value human life who own guns too.
Edited more shit I had to say into this comment, sorry if you already read it the first time.
I’m not anti-gun. I just like criticizing gun-culture which I find the most juvenile and cringe subculture even beating out weed culture. I’ve owned guns in the past and will again in the future. Doesn’t change ARGO out here killing himself or his family through accidental discharges and whatnot.
Alright, well, you could have fooled me. I’m just out here trying to make sure we don’t get it in our heads that we need to disarm the proletariat, that’s all. Sorry if I came across as a little overzealous, I have had really long days back to back to back at work
I’m only pointing out that the common point of almost every fatal gun accident is that the gun was pointed at someone. It’s the one single thing that you can do to nearly guarantee a gun won’t harm someone: don’t point it at them. In this case, if this was an accident (doubt), that would have easily been accomplished by leaving it in storage, where it could not have been pointed at anyone.
I’m not sure why you’re being a dick here, or what your point is. Obviously, not having a gun is a good way not to have a gun accident. I’m only pointing out that many gun owners can’t seem to meet the very basic and obvious standard of “don’t point a deadly weapon at people unless you want them dead”.
I’m not a “gun culture dude”. I don’t understand why you’re so aggro, all I did was mock “gun culture dudes” for not even being able to clear the bar of “don’t point the gun at people”. You assumed I was one of them for some reason.
For someone who claims you aren’t the target of my comments you sure have seemed to take them quite personally. A bit of a contradiction there.
Also, I don’t think I’ve been aggro at all. You were quite literally repeating the kind of shit I hear from Argo. I didn’t even lay into you for the asinine observation about muzzle discipline.
Just like terminal car brain people. They’re such a good driver until someone starts to cut them off and they start to speed up to “defend their right of way.”
My wife and I have name for people like this: Argo. (Another Responsible Gun Owner). Argo always thinks they are right. Argo will defend the second amendment. Argo definitely checked the chamber and the gun is totally not loaded. Argo has accidents sometimes.
Never point it at things you don’t want dead. No matter how unloaded, no matter if the safety is on. How do they keep screwing that up?
That is, if this wasn’t just a murder and the claim of “accident” is a lie.
It totally was a murder. Why would you point a gun at your own kid if not to murder them?
This was 100% murder
You sound like Argo. Argo always says these things and when you talk to the people who knew Argo they’ll tell you how Argo never seemed to be unsafe with a weapon.
This guy was a huge piece of shit, as evidenced by the things he said to his daughter before murdering her. You pinning this down as just another case of “guns inherently bad” takes the agency away from this guy, who seems to have been routinely weird about his daughter before he eventually murdered her. His problem wasn’t that he had guns, or that he was an alcoholic, his problem was that he either A) wanted to scare his daughter into agreeing with him by making her think he was going to kill her, or B) wanted to kill his daughter for disagreeing with him.
He could have murdered his daughter without a gun, he could have avoided murdering his daughter despite having a gun. How many people do you attribute not murdering per day to that fact that you just haven’t got a gun?
Look, cops have guns, lots of them, so by my assessment we should at least have some people that actually value human life who own guns too.
Edited more shit I had to say into this comment, sorry if you already read it the first time.
I’m not anti-gun. I just like criticizing gun-culture which I find the most juvenile and cringe subculture even beating out weed culture. I’ve owned guns in the past and will again in the future. Doesn’t change ARGO out here killing himself or his family through accidental discharges and whatnot.
Alright, well, you could have fooled me. I’m just out here trying to make sure we don’t get it in our heads that we need to disarm the proletariat, that’s all. Sorry if I came across as a little overzealous, I have had really long days back to back to back at work
damn lenin-on-lenin violence
I’m only pointing out that the common point of almost every fatal gun accident is that the gun was pointed at someone. It’s the one single thing that you can do to nearly guarantee a gun won’t harm someone: don’t point it at them. In this case, if this was an accident (doubt), that would have easily been accomplished by leaving it in storage, where it could not have been pointed at anyone.
I’m not sure why you’re being a dick here, or what your point is. Obviously, not having a gun is a good way not to have a gun accident. I’m only pointing out that many gun owners can’t seem to meet the very basic and obvious standard of “don’t point a deadly weapon at people unless you want them dead”.
I’m not anti-gun or advocating against guns. Gun culture dudes really can’t take an ounce of criticism.
I’m not a “gun culture dude”. I don’t understand why you’re so aggro, all I did was mock “gun culture dudes” for not even being able to clear the bar of “don’t point the gun at people”. You assumed I was one of them for some reason.
For someone who claims you aren’t the target of my comments you sure have seemed to take them quite personally. A bit of a contradiction there.
Also, I don’t think I’ve been aggro at all. You were quite literally repeating the kind of shit I hear from Argo. I didn’t even lay into you for the asinine observation about muzzle discipline.
OK, I don’t think this conversation is productive. Have a good day.
Guns kill people. Do you know what that can include? Fascists.
Just like terminal car brain people. They’re such a good driver until someone starts to cut them off and they start to speed up to “defend their right of way.”