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to Privacy@lemmy.mlEnglish · 19 days ago

ive learned alot past year :D

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ive learned alot past year :D

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to Privacy@lemmy.mlEnglish · 19 days ago
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    19 days ago

    Google -> Kagi+

    DDG uses bing and bing is owned my Microsoft

    Enough said

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      19 days ago

      I’ve heard… Questionable things about the Kagi CEO that make me hesitant to give them money. I just don’t really use search engines for much anymore.

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        19 days ago

        What have you heard?

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          • Da Cap’n@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            I read most of it. Nothing of concern compared to Google & Microsoft.

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              18 days ago

              related: https://lemmy.zip/post/58480727/24450030

              and https://マリウス.com/doubting-your-favorite-web-search-engine/

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      Kagi uses Bing and Google…

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        18 days ago

        It’s kind of unclear what they use as sources nowadays. What is clear however is that they use their own search engine, Teclis, so it doesn’t just act as a proxy for other search engines but searches will only remain in their own engine.

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          They listed their sources before and they removed https://web.archive.org/web/20231228222303if_/https://help.kagi.com/kagi/search-details/search-sources.html

          But than this month they write a blog https://blog.kagi.com/waiting-dawn-search and revealed everything again

          Vendor 	Status
          Mojeek 	Direct license
          Brave 	Direct license
          Yandex 	Direct license
          Wikipedia 	Direct license
          TripAdvisor 	Direct license
          Yelp 	Direct license
          Apple 	Direct license
          Wolfram Alpha 	Direct license
          Our own Small Web Index 	Proprietary
          
          With Google and Bing, we failed - not for lack of trying.
          
          Bing: Their terms didn’t work for us from the start. Microsoft’s terms prohibited reordering results or merging them with other sources - restrictions incompatible with Kagi’s approach. In February 2023, they announced price increases of up to 10x on some API tiers. Then in May 2025, they retired the Bing Search APIs entirely, effective August 2025, directing customers toward AI-focused alternatives like Azure AI Agents.
          
          Google: Google does not offer a public search API. The only available path is an ad-syndication bundle with no changes to result presentation - the model Startpage uses.
          

          and “it doesn’t just act as a proxy for other search engines” it exactly does this, Teclis is <1% of the results (you can see yourself https://teclis.com/)

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