• LeninWeave [none/use name, any]@hexbear.net
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    13 days ago

    Disabled people are. This reply is beneath you.

    Yes it’s the existence of a disability that pissed BlackRedGuard off and not the onxionous displays of hard-headed whiteness

    I was replying to your comment there, not BRG’s. The marginalized identity being potentially harmed here by the contextless statement in the tweet “a lot of slaveowners were disabled” is disabled people, not white people who are not marginalized.

    No you’re not “saying” that’s what he’s doing, you’re just implying it

    I’m saying he may not have meant to do it, but it in my opinion had the effect of promoting ableism. This is separate from the racial aspect and does not take away from the point there.

    “the existence of disability doesn’t negate the impact of racial abuse” (which you happen to agree with by the way) yet BRG is still somehow in the wrong because…implications… Ok.

    If this was BRG’s point (which makes sense) then I agree with it. However, I feel it was expressed in a careless way which harms disabled people. That may not have been the intent, but sadly it may have been the effect. This doesn’t negate the racial trauma behind it, or indeed the correctness of the point that black people have a right to be traumatized by slurs regardless of the intent behind them.

    As I said in my reply to you in the other sub-thread, I don’t think I’m going to be able to reply to you further in this discussion without hurting you and myself more. This is a difficult and traumatic topic for everyone involved and I don’t want to keep triggering those issues for both you and myself when I don’t feel we’re going to resolve this with this conversation.

    • CyborgMarx [any, any]@hexbear.net
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      13 days ago

      I was replying to your comment there, not BRG’s

      You were replying to my comment about BRG’s tweet, don’t be obtuse

      The marginalized identity being potentially harmed here by the contextless statement in the tweet “a lot of slaveowners were disabled” is disabled people, not white people who are not marginalized.

      Ok, so now you’re back to talking about BRG, got it, let’s figure out what the operative word in BRG’s tweet was, hint it wasn’t “disabled”, it was “Slaveowners”. Why? Because in the context of the wider discourse about Black people being subjected to racial abuse, he’s making a point that even the densest cracker can understand, which helps illustrate the wider argument he’s advancing which is “disability does not negate racial abuse”

      Which, by the way already you agreed with

      If this was BRG’s point (which makes sense) then I agree with it. However, I feel it was expressed in a careless way which harms disabled people

      OH NOW WE START TO GET IT, after paragraphs and an entire thread trashing BRG (and anyone defending him), suddenly his point (that every Black person in his replies immediately understood) becomes clear, despite that fact it was always clear

      Also why is BRG supposedly “careless” maybe your whiteness got in the way of seeing the obvious, you ever think of that?