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    It will be different this time because this time there are even dumber presidents.

  • FlakesBongler [they/them]@hexbear.net
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    Guys. Seriously. Just one more war, I promise in and out, four, five weeks tops. Seriously. Seriously. Guys. Guys. Guys. Seriously. Just five years. Guys. Seriously. Seriously. Seriously. Guys. Seriously. Guys. Guys. Seriously

  • See, the thing is, even if we were to accept that Trump is actually a thousand times smarter in all respects than previous presidents of the United States, that still does not defend Vance’s position, because you can’t defend that position that US intervention is justified.

  • DragonBallZinn [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net
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    Love how CHUDs love to claim omniscient and they’re always right about everything, but every time they propose more of the same for the past 50 years, it’s been “come it’ll be different. One more [dogshit idea], bro.”

  • Llituro [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net
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    if they learned from obama that making a state fail gets them pretty much the result they want without all the annoyance and cost of a stay-behind mission. so in those terms, supposing that’s what their actual goal is (since “regime change” in Iran is basically off the table), i can’t entirely disagree that the “problem” with dubya neocons was the idea that they had to stick around after to try to clumsily prop up an entirely u.s. backed regime.

    of course, the real problem for jd vance and the gang is that the Islamic Republic is not nearly so fragile a state apparatus as the ones they’ve gotten used to fucking with. i mean, Iran essentially planned ahead of time for Khameini to be martyred in this way: he wasn’t in a bunker, he was just at home with his family. he was also an 86 year old man. the IRGC is significantly more independent than most western analysts that aren’t military guys in the room giving trump options will admit. it’s not the case of course that the Islamic Revolution is a universally popular form of governance within Iran; but it is the only one with real institutions, and there is a significant proportion of the country that does genuinely believe in the project. even moreso, the u.s. and the zionists have bombed opposition leaders; it’s pretty clear that they’re attempting to make the state fail. the best case scenario to the zionists and the u.s. is essentially Shi’a “super ISIS” and this seems very unlikely to me. all that said, mass casualties of amerikkkan soldiers and zionist civilians will start to make the calculus here much different than it currently is.

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    So the US uses the best system of governance in history, by which the will of God is expressed through the electorate to select the leaders of the greatest military power in history, the last several of which have blundered into a series of disastrous boondoggles in the Middle East. This disastrous boondoggle will be different, because Heaven, in its divine wisdom and infinite subtlety, decided not to pick an idiot this time around.