Going through the spell list, there’s an awful lot of spells that are incredibly funny in the context of bedroom pastimes, here, let’s assume it’s heroism and Bear’s Endurance.

  • AhdokOP
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    974 months ago

    Konsi listening to this conversation from the kitchen.

  • Zorque
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    I wonder why people assume that people with muscle can only ever use brute force.

    It’s entirely possible to moderate muscle control for gentleness, even if those muscles are powerful.

    • AhdokOP
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      424 months ago

      That’s fair, although Razira does everything at full paladin all the time.

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        Isn’t Charisma the Paladin’s main stat, though? :D

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            These characters are from a real 5e campaign, at this point of time in the comic, they’re level 9, and everyone is monoclassed (as 5e is actually intended to be played)

            • Konsi - Cleric (trickery) (this is my PC, which is why the comics mostly focus on her.)
            • Toron - Rogue (swashbuckler)
            • Mystery - Warlock (Fey patron (now), Tome)
            • Sand - Monk (Open Hand, but he changed to Astral Self a bit later)
            • Faelys - Staff of Power (also Wizard/Evoker)

            Razira is an NPC sidekick built using the sidekick rules, with a little bit of paladin sprinkled in for flavour.

          • AhdokOP
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            I’m pretty sure “physical finesse” is usually covered by Dexterity :)

            Anyway, here’s Razira’s Attributes (She was originally constructed with the sidekick rules, but we keep giving her stuff and she’s getting quite powerful.)

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            Technically, if you look at what Charisma rolls do in practice, it’s more akin to Constitution but for your mind. I personally like to use Constitution as the physical prettiness score and Charisma as the “force of will” stat.

            I know that’s counterintuitive as hell, but it’s what the rules lead me to believe. You don’t roll Int/Wis to resist having your soul rent asunder, after all. Besides, I think this lines up with how attractiveness works irl. I’ve met plenty of physically attractive people who become absolutely repulsive when you just get to know them the tiniest bit.

            • @PopMyCop@iusearchlinux.fyi
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              That’s weird. Wisdom has always been the resistance roll for soul stuff in my memory, except for its weird foray into the physical with perception checks.

              • Wugmeister
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                Maybe it’s a 5e thing. I only got into DnD in 4e when I was a kid, so maybe that was the transition point for that. As long as I have been playing, wisdom was for avoiding/deflecting psychic effects whereas Charisma was for withstanding effects that can just hit you with no chance of escape. It’s analogous to making dex save to dodge a poison dart trap, but having to make a Con save to resist the poison itself.

                The way I have been exposed to it, you use Intelligence to see through an illusion, Wisdom to avoid being charmed, and Charisma to avoid being NPCified into a mindless thrall of the big bad.

                • AhdokOP
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                  I’m afraid this isn’t really accurate either. Most of the saves to avoid “being NPCified” (e.g. Vampire charm, Aboleth mind control, dominate person) are wisdom saves.

                  In 5e, it’s safe to assume the default mental save is Wisdom. 90% of mental save effects target Wisdom, and if you’re wondering which mental stat to buy resilience for, Wisdom is a clear winner.

                  If it’s a “figure something out” effect or a contest of intelligence, it’ll often an INT test, but those are rare. Good examples are piercing illusions, or things like trying to mentally force someone out of your minds (the detect thoughts intelligence contest)

                  Charisma tends to also be rare, but which things are CHA saves are all over the place, almost arbitrary. Effects that require a mental save but would have a physically debilitating effect (such as divine word, or the jumpscare attack of ghosts) are sometimes Charisma, and those are the most common appearances of it. Feeblemind, which drains your intelligence, is a charisma save for some weird reason. Zone of Truth is a charisma save…

                  It’s not really well defined metaphysically, and I’m not sure there’s any directed intention in the design plan here (at least not that I can tell.) - Charisma saves do commonly mean the effect is going to be really bad though…

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                I suppose it’s better to say that for as long as I have been playing, the stats for “save or die” saving throws were either Constitution or Charisma. In fairness, these rolls were rare, but I have been trained that when the DM says “Make a Charisma saving throw” my bowels automatically loosen while I dig out my next character sheet from my folder.

          • Zorque
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            I just meant as opposed to strength, another main stat.

      • Zorque
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        144 months ago

        My muscles are always at 100%! It’s just sometimes that 100% is smaller ;)

        • AhdokOP
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          It happens to all of us occasionally.

  • @Susaga
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    Whether you’re preparing magic for war or the bedroom, always have protection ready. And perhaps a few healing spells if you think it’s gonna get rough.

  • Neato
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    I was wondering if it was enlarge/reduce and which one.

  • @Shivirani
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    Created an account to point out that Hafthor Bjornsson (played the mountain in Game of Thrones, world’s strongest man at least once) has a wife who looks tiny next to him, and isn’t dead.

    • AhdokOP
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      I think Toron was mostly basing his remarks off his own experiences with Razira. She’s generally a bit boisterous and rough with other members of the party because they’re “hardy adventurers” and… throwing a guy across the room to get him out of danger relies more on speed than gentleness.

      Also, while he acts suave, he really has no idea what he’s talking about. Every romantic entanglement he’s had has turned out trying to kill him before it came to the bedroom… and that’s happened a surprisingly large number of times.

      Several of them are still chasing the party trying to assassinate us…

    • Tekhne
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      Whoa, just looked them up. That’s an unimaginable size difference. She must be like a doll to him…

    • AhdokOP
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      Don’t need a spell for that…