I was seeing the facts about issues to animals and environment, when I had already become vegetarian, had me knowing I should be vegan as soon as it could be managed, there were real obstacles for me still. And it was just what I read a couple of years after I was effectively vegan to know the healthy way, which I wanted, that being with whole foods from plants without the processed stuff that comes with food otherwise, and I changed to that, still making it healthier and healthier. Having plenty variety is really good for that.

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    18 hours ago

    Congratulations on your journey. It’s not always easy in this society, but it’s the right thing to do.

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    24 hours ago

    There’s only 1 reason to go vegan, everything else is bonus.

    People who go plant-based for health, environment, etc… aren’t necessarily vegan unless they agree that needlessly exploiting animals is wrong. Veganism is a philosophy about not exploiting animals, not dietary preferences.

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      18 hours ago

      No, it’s a term for consumption choice.

      A vegan who does it for environmental reasons is more vegan than someone who is philosophically opposed to animal exploitation but still eats cheese.

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        30 minutes ago

        Please check out the original definition of veganism, by Leslie Cross https://www.vegansociety.com/about-us/history

        Veganism is definitely not just about consumption choices, people can exploit animals in so many other ways besides consumption. Using them for their work, vivisectioning them, testing on them, etc.

        A vegan who does it for environmental reasons is more vegan than someone who is philosophically opposed to animal exploitation but still eats cheese.

        The first person is just plant-based, not vegan. They can stop being plant-based as soon as they find an environmental reason to go back to animal exploitation. Also they wouldn’t necessarily be against using animals for their work, vivisectioning them, etc.