‘Why is the US bombing Iran?’ has got to be one of the most searched prompts on google these past few days. And the closest thing to a current answer you will find is “We attacked them because they were going to have nukes and then use them on us, it’s self-defense.” - There is a lack of evidence for this claim btw.

That is like as if you invade someone’s home, shoot and kill them and your defense in court for it is, “Your honour, I had to do it because I had suspicions they were going to adopt a guard dog and then use that guard dog to attack me while I was walking down the street!”

Blatant, mask-off imperialism. How anyone can continue to view America and Israel on the right side of history baffles me.

  • JustSo [she/her, any]@hexbear.net
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    The clearest statement of a justification I saw was (paraphrased, but logic intact) “Iran was going to resume moving towards the brink of developing nukes” which is so limp and passively worded that it doesn’t even pretend there was any immediate urgency. I forget which politician made that particular statement but it was so fucking flaccid I laughed.

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      Yeah, this is exactly my point hahaha, they have next to nothing to convince people they were in the right to do this. Of course us leftists know they had no right by default but the general public in the imperial core are not going to be able to support this by this ‘but but they were almost going to kind of possibly have nukes in the near future maybe!’ argument alone.

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        Yeah. Combined with how flatfooted they were caught by the retaliation things sure seem to be absolutely peak circus right now.

        Given how easy it is to whip the public into a blood frenzy its a wonder that they haven’t even tried.

        Amateurs. die-motherfucker

        I’ll grant them that it does make it hard to predict what unhinged decision they’ll make next though.

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          Given how easy it is to whip the public into a blood frenzy its a wonder that they haven’t even tried.

          it’s interesting to have the comparison between now and 2001-2003. somebody better at sociology than me could probably draw some conclusions

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            Yeah I was musing on that.

            It also occurred to me that the old heads who had experience with that kind of thing and with running major operations in general have probably either retired, been moved out as “deep state bureaucrats” or otherwise left because they were liberal true believers with something like a conscience. Its been a pretty long war of attrition when you add the first trump term etc.

            There’s also been a pattern where overseas ops haven’t been announced in advance and the message has been that it would remove the element of surprise. Also that the media is in cahoots with the enemy. So, maybe, they’re trying to be unusually tight with their opsec, best they know how. Especially after earlier embarrassments. (edit: I hate to say it but, if they really are playing for keeps, I think this is the most likely explanation.)