• Le_Wokisme [they/them, undecided]@hexbear.net
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    5 days ago

    housing units aren’t fungible. jobs aren’t necessarily where the housing is. A program of displacing people is not something i want the US government doing again.

    none of the structure required to support what you want to do exists.

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      5 days ago

      Most people in hyperexploited countries would have a lenin-palace reaction to how people in this country live.

      The transition is not going to happen overnight for all suburban dwellers*, but an organized group of people can go live in high density (sometimes with roommates, the greatest fear of an amerikkkan that is having to share living space with someone they don’t have a chain of progenitors with) and orient around a new approach to settled places.

      Jobs are largely a function of need which is a function of population; this has been the case since the dawn of civilization. Good Jobs are scarce and will get more scarce no matter what. As communists we know this, and we should also recognize that a Job is a means to making a living, and there have always been other means.

      *At some point, though, we will run up against environmental or economic constraints that reveal living 10-40 miles away from all of your destinations to be futile and impractical, possibly by oil scarcity, possibly by supply chain shocks, or possibly by bankruptcy of municipalities.

      We can either get ahead of the curve and live well, or we can wait until it hits us, but the exurbs are an ephemeral peculiarity of parts of the 20th and 21st centuries. One way or another, they are headed to the dustbin of history.

      And I for one would love nothing more than to see the tears of the inheritance class and PMC ladder climbers when they no longer have the option to live in a McMansion.

      • Le_Wokisme [they/them, undecided]@hexbear.net
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        5 days ago

        deep-nesting

        The transition is not going to happen overnight for all suburban dwellers

        so what you’re saying is

        there are a lot of people living in the pits of suburban sprawl who cannot electively stop using cars tomorrow

        ?

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          5 days ago

          Not as a whole all at once, but that’s not a reason against beginning the desertion of the suburbs.

          I don’t pretend that everybody can stop being in debt all at once either, but I help people reduce their debt anyway.

          If we only did things when we felt like we’d have a wave of acceptance powering us, we’d never make any progress.