Lost under Biden? The lost abortion rights had absolutely nothing to do with the Biden administration and everything to do with the judges the GOP appointed. You do realize that… …right?
No attempt to pack the court. No attempt to challenge the authority of the court. No attempt to sidestep the ruling or pressure the GOP and anti-abortion states via executive order. In the end it’s just another piece of evidence that the Democrats are either unwilling or incapable of fighting for our rights.
No, we are not yelling bloody murder at the GOP for their lack of respect for the decrepit institutions of this settler-slaver colony. Well, maybe you are, but we are yelling at them for doing literal bloody murder.
If we’re talking about strictly legal methods, Biden’s only option would be to pack the court to overrule Dobbs and reinstate Roe/Casey (or, ideally a stronger version). This would be done via a new federal law, and given that the dems only held 50 senate seats (which included people such and Manchin and Sinema), this was not something that could actually happen.
I think Biden should have tried this, used the bully pulpit of the presidency to argue for it, and campaigned against the senators that stood in the way of this. That’s what I would expect a president who actually cared about this issue to do. But it would not have stopped SCOTUS’s rollback of the law.
Biden could of course have instead triggered a constitutional crisis by directly threatening SCOTUS and forcing them to rule with a (potentially actual) gun to their head. But I’m not sure that’s what you had in mind?
You kinda making the point. He didnt even try. People here probably wouldnt be holding him so responsible for things if he had tried AT ALL to stop it even if he still failed.
Ye if the point is that he failed to try and that’s why you don’t like him, fair enough, I definitely agree there. I was reading the OP as blaming him for the result, rather than the failure to try, which is what I was responding to.
The failure to try makes him complicit. While not directly responsible, he allowed it to happen by doing exactly nothing. Like you said. It’s clear he didn’t actually care.
The Supreme Court ruled that the US President could break the law as long as it’s part of an official act during his presidency. That opened up his options quite a bit lol.
If you think that this Supreme Court actually rules on principles and that it would apply it equally (rather than in a brutally partisan manner) to Biden and Trump, then I have a bridge to sell you.
weird how the separation of powers only applies to bind the hands of democrat presidents when they might theoretically step in to protect human rights. what would the parliamentarian say!
You’re a joke. Everyone here took grade school civics and knows what “separation of powers” means. Just seems like you never bothered learning past that.
If they gave a shit they would have codified R v. W, or added more judges to the SC to ‘balance’ the stolen judges the GOP got in by Obama being happy to play ball with them. The Dems value the fundraising they can do when abortion rights are threatened more than your ‘rights’ themselves
To dumb it down: if someone kills someone and someone else sees it and doesn’t intervene, the person who saw it and didn’t intervene may not be the best person (options of intervening aside), but they’re still a far better person the the person who actually committed the murder.
What if the person who does nothing is a cop whos literal job it was to stop it? Its one thing to try and fail. It’s another to sit on your ass and watch while planning on how you can use the murder to negotiate a raise.
The passive person is considered an accomplice to murder, and usually they are charged with the same penalties of that murder in that manner.
You’re being facetious and deceitful.
The Democrats and Biden enabled and empowered Israel’s genocide, breaking several laws of financing and sponsoring such states’ actions; the Center for Constitutuional Rights filed a lawsuit against the Biden administration which the court acknowledged that a genocide was ongoing - that the Biden administration’s breaking of the law was evident - but decided to rule against the CCR based on political doctrine (i.e, the court refused to intervene because it was foreign policy matter to be settled by the executive/legislative, despite the illegality of the executive action.)
The rule of law does not exist. The state is a means of mediating class conflict and socioeconomic changes. The state therefore selectively applies the law, indicating that it is power and political will that determines state policy rather than legalisms and procedure.
You do realize that Trump and the GOP just do whatever they want and ignore the supreme Court via loopholes, executive orders, and actually legislating? Have you ever stopped to consider that if the Dems wanted to do that, they could too? So if abortion rights are so important, why didn’t they? If student loan forgiveness, or Gaza, or healthcare, or inflation were problems too, why didn’t the Dems use every trick in the book to accomplish these things? The GOP is doing it. The Dems could too, right? Why didn’t they? Why won’t they?
Try examining what’s happening in the world and coming to your own conclusions instead of deepthroating election propaganda
he had every opportunity to do lib shit like pack the court, don’t even have to get into movie shit like having them killed after ruling the president can do anything he wants.
What’s sad/disappointing is he fought harder for student loan forgiveness than keeping abortions rights, or other human rights lost under him or earlier under Trump. Which also isn’t saying much considering how poorly he did the forgiveness attempt.
Lost under Biden? The lost abortion rights had absolutely nothing to do with the Biden administration and everything to do with the judges the GOP appointed. You do realize that… …right?
No attempt to pack the court. No attempt to challenge the authority of the court. No attempt to sidestep the ruling or pressure the GOP and anti-abortion states via executive order. In the end it’s just another piece of evidence that the Democrats are either unwilling or incapable of fighting for our rights.
So… exactly the kind of stuff we are all (rightfully) yelling bloody murder about when the GOP does it.
No, we are not yelling bloody murder at the GOP for their lack of respect for the decrepit institutions of this settler-slaver colony. Well, maybe you are, but we are yelling at them for doing literal bloody murder.
The GOP is wielding political power again, I would NEVER
tremendous loser energy
Communists understand that it’s bad when power is exercised for bad things and good when power is exercised for good things.
Liberals simply think it’s bad when power is exercised.
Using power for bad things is bad. Using power for good things is good. The power isn’t the issue, it’s what’s done with power that matters.
What’s with this “we” shit, liberal? You quite clearly aren’t on the same page as anybody here.
FDR threatened to pack the court. What do you think of him?
As ever, liberals only care about Republicans failure to follow procedures in their execution of monstrous evil
Tremendous loser energy.
when did nazis pack the court? i understand they stole some seats, but we’ve been on 9 justices for decades.
Christ you’re insufferable. “Pooor weeeeedle pwwesudennt can’t do annnnything!”
Fuck you, everyone knows that’s not true.
If we’re talking about strictly legal methods, Biden’s only option would be to pack the court to overrule Dobbs and reinstate Roe/Casey (or, ideally a stronger version). This would be done via a new federal law, and given that the dems only held 50 senate seats (which included people such and Manchin and Sinema), this was not something that could actually happen.
I think Biden should have tried this, used the bully pulpit of the presidency to argue for it, and campaigned against the senators that stood in the way of this. That’s what I would expect a president who actually cared about this issue to do. But it would not have stopped SCOTUS’s rollback of the law.
Biden could of course have instead triggered a constitutional crisis by directly threatening SCOTUS and forcing them to rule with a (potentially actual) gun to their head. But I’m not sure that’s what you had in mind?
biden could’ve drone striked the supreme court
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You kinda making the point. He didnt even try. People here probably wouldnt be holding him so responsible for things if he had tried AT ALL to stop it even if he still failed.
Ye if the point is that he failed to try and that’s why you don’t like him, fair enough, I definitely agree there. I was reading the OP as blaming him for the result, rather than the failure to try, which is what I was responding to.
The failure to try makes him complicit. While not directly responsible, he allowed it to happen by doing exactly nothing. Like you said. It’s clear he didn’t actually care.
The Supreme Court ruled that the US President could break the law as long as it’s part of an official act during his presidency. That opened up his options quite a bit lol.
If you think that this Supreme Court actually rules on principles and that it would apply it equally (rather than in a brutally partisan manner) to Biden and Trump, then I have a bridge to sell you.
they can’t rule if they’re dead after saying it was legal for the president to officially have them killed
Biden was literally told that nothing the president does is illegal by the supreme Court
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weird how the separation of powers only applies to bind the hands of democrat presidents when they might theoretically step in to protect human rights. what would the parliamentarian say!
im sure its a coincidence.
aww the mods got him.
I like how trump does something illegal every day with no consequence but you still want democrats to police themselves.
You’re a joke. Everyone here took grade school civics and knows what “separation of powers” means. Just seems like you never bothered learning past that.
If they gave a shit they would have codified R v. W, or added more judges to the SC to ‘balance’ the stolen judges the GOP got in by Obama being happy to play ball with them. The Dems value the fundraising they can do when abortion rights are threatened more than your ‘rights’ themselves
I yearn for the day libs learn to write without pulling from the same raggedy bag of cliches and redditisms
Yes I’m well aware of the fact that they did nothing about it. Your point being?
To dumb it down: if someone kills someone and someone else sees it and doesn’t intervene, the person who saw it and didn’t intervene may not be the best person (options of intervening aside), but they’re still a far better person the the person who actually committed the murder.
What if the person who does nothing is a cop whos literal job it was to stop it? Its one thing to try and fail. It’s another to sit on your ass and watch while planning on how you can use the murder to negotiate a raise.
Oof sorry, but this is America and the Supreme Court has repteadly ruled that cops have no obligation to protect anyone.
Shhh ik! im trying to turn the lib’s brainworms against each other
“No no, you don’t understand. My preferred president exists in a quantum superposition of both genocidal and completely useless.”
The passive person is considered an accomplice to murder, and usually they are charged with the same penalties of that murder in that manner.
You’re being facetious and deceitful.
The Democrats and Biden enabled and empowered Israel’s genocide, breaking several laws of financing and sponsoring such states’ actions; the Center for Constitutuional Rights filed a lawsuit against the Biden administration which the court acknowledged that a genocide was ongoing - that the Biden administration’s breaking of the law was evident - but decided to rule against the CCR based on political doctrine (i.e, the court refused to intervene because it was foreign policy matter to be settled by the executive/legislative, despite the illegality of the executive action.)
The rule of law does not exist. The state is a means of mediating class conflict and socioeconomic changes. The state therefore selectively applies the law, indicating that it is power and political will that determines state policy rather than legalisms and procedure.
To dumb it down: you’re not going back to brunch.
you’ll say anything to avoid holding your team to any accountability, you are the mirror image of MAGA
That is indeed dumb
You do realize that Trump and the GOP just do whatever they want and ignore the supreme Court via loopholes, executive orders, and actually legislating? Have you ever stopped to consider that if the Dems wanted to do that, they could too? So if abortion rights are so important, why didn’t they? If student loan forgiveness, or Gaza, or healthcare, or inflation were problems too, why didn’t the Dems use every trick in the book to accomplish these things? The GOP is doing it. The Dems could too, right? Why didn’t they? Why won’t they?
Try examining what’s happening in the world and coming to your own conclusions instead of deepthroating election propaganda
Skill issue. If I had been president I wouldn’t have let the GOP’s supreme court strip away abortion rights.
he had every opportunity to do lib shit like pack the court, don’t even have to get into movie shit like having them killed after ruling the president can do anything he wants.
What’s sad/disappointing is he fought harder for student loan forgiveness than keeping abortions rights, or other human rights lost under him or earlier under Trump. Which also isn’t saying much considering how poorly he did the forgiveness attempt.