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    I don’t want to come off as rude, because this is awesome and should be shared more. However, I know this is a community for women, and men technically aren’t allowed to post. Is that waived for this thread?

    I think this should have been posted to a different community probably, so men are open to discuss it. That’s the point of it, isn’t it? It sucks that the first time I’m seeing it on All is a community that is explicitly not who this is helpful to.

    Anyway, I love this post! I hope it’s shown everywhere.

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        they didnt do that.

        they asked if they (men) could dicuss this post here since its not posted anywhere else.

        can we do that? post it elsewhere too, so men can? I love this post too

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        That’s not my intent. This community specifically has a rule banning men from commenting. (This is not a criticism of this rule either.) I was curious if that’s waived for this post. It’s specifically a post about and for men, but men aren’t supposed to be allowed to comment here.

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            Sure. But if the point is to try to “fix” masculinity, which is seemingly the point of the post, that needs to involve men. You’re allowed to discuss anything you want.

            I will point out, the comments seem to fit my point where it seems it’s mostly men discussing it. I also assume the rule is waived, for this reason. I have seen no removed comments or warnings about the rule. I’m literally the only person who has brought it up. If there’s no official response, the rule is de facto waived for this post.

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                If the point of the post is to say “men should act like this, not that” then yes, the point is fixing. Sure, it might not actively be aimed to externally influence, but it is trying to point to a solution to a problem, aka a fix.

                Why are women not allowed to discuss masculinity without men?

                I clearly said they are. The point of the post seems to be aimed more towards a solution to a problem though, as I stated. If you want it to happen, it needs to reach men. I guess you can just not want things to change, but I don’t think most people do, and I’d wager the OP doesn’t want that.

                Anway, again, the moderators of the community seem to agree that men are allowed on this post since I’m the only one who has discussed this rule. Usually they’re pretty quick on asking men not to comment (which is fine and good), but they haven’t here. I noticed this so I asked. I guess I could just not ask and assume it’s allowed.

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                    I’m trying to not be hostile. I don’t know what more to say. The moderators are either AWOL or they approve of the discussion (the latter seems much more likely). I was asking if it’s allowed, because it seems to be. If you disagree, take it up with them, not me.

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        I’m aware. The point is this is where the discussion is already happening. Making a new post doesn’t inherit the attention.

        The discussion here is with both men and women, so the rule is at least not enforced for this post. Personally, I think this is the right call. Its not my community though so it isn’t my call to make. That’s why I was asking.

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            I meant more vaguely I hope to see it around, because the OP didn’t create this. People from this community don’t have to be the people doing it, obviously. Hell, most of the people commenting on it don’t seem to be from this community. I’m sure it is posted elsewhere, but this is the place I saw it.

            I don’t really post. I should, but I don’t.