fascist and neoliberal “free speech” in a nutshell.
There’s a specter haunting the lemmyverse
Rimu made it pretty clear:
And here’s how Piefed is seen by fascists:
Piefed is a political answer to the fact that communists have a strong foothold on Lemmy and the devs are communists. In accusing the communists of being “authoritarian,” though, Rimu implements social credit scores, blocks left wing news sources and calls them “right wing,” all manner of disinformation and manipulation to protect liberalism. Meanwhile, Rimu keeps good company in the Nazi bar.
degenerates
These people can’t help but let the mask slip.
Yep.
i remember that goat, he’s the one that created a community dedicated to complain about marxists lol. rimu is going to create a software that no one wants to use, not only tankies.
That goat is also a Zionazi, but hey! Better a Zionazi than an actual leftist, amirite? (/s just in case)
Yep, that comment from Rimu to goat is in that community itself actually. And agreed, Rimu is killing Piefed.
its presence seems to be growing to me.
Kinda, but it’s also in a bit of a crisis.
Good riddance.
also, calling us degenerates. yeah, pretty sane person thing to do, not at all something the nazis used to say
the funniest part to me is the utter lack of self awareness
oh big surprise the fedifash use literal nazi terminology
😬
Yep lol, totally not suspicious at all.
Tbf, I’ve used it to describe Nazis and Nazi - adjacent.
Another badass version of this is from Omar Mukhtar:
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You really shouldn’t, I understand the sentiment but it has fascist roots.
I understand. Perhaps “debased?” “Debauched” doesn’t quite capture it since a lot of fash/adjacent actually probably live cleaner than I do, sometimes (as in affordability and an occasional indulgence in unhealthy things like a cookie or ice cream).
Western online spaces have Western brainrot and morality. Nothing new, but still very annoying. 😭
it reminds me of this lemmy front end with an integrated MBFC bullshit lol
Criticism of censorship on lemmy.ml.
Color me shocked.
As per usual, if any sort of exchange happens with my comment here, I fully expect to have my comments deleted, for “spreading hate” or some stupid pretense.
In reality, they will be deleted when I refuse to accept blatant nonsense.
Thats just how things are done on the .ml
You being justifiably dunked on is different from you being labeled as propaganda, and then hiding your from our user base with hardcoded rules in the code because those pesky users can’t be trusted with choosing their sources of information.
Go back to your lib safe space where daddy Rimu will make sure you never hear of us again
Objectively, your statement is inflammatory.
You will be safe from having your comment removed though.
Go back to your lib safe space where daddy Rimu will make sure you never hear of us again
I require no safe space. I hold my own here, then my comments get deleted.
That keeps you safe from people who refuse to accept nonsense.
Why do so many of you guys talk like you own a decorative cane you don’t need
I require no safe space. I hold my own here, then my comments get deleted.
Yeah insults will do that on most places.
https://lemmy.world/modlog?page=1&actionType=All&userId=19892717
https://lemmy.world/modlog?page=1&actionType=All&userId=102339
I stand by all of my comments.
I’m rereading my comments that you’ve linked, and I’m nodding in approval.
I’m rereading my comments that you’ve linked, and I’m nodding in approval.
Yeah, masturbation’s great
I’m rereading my comments that you’ve linked, and I’m nodding in approval.
Says more about you than anything else
Says more about you than anything else
Agreed. I made an I statement about myself.
Piefed is baking these tools into the code itself, Lemmy doesn’t. Communists aren’t opposed to censorship unilaterally, disinformation can and should be removed (along with bigotry, etc.). However, Rimu is waging a crusade against Lemmy’s left-wing userbase and is trying to consolidate a viewpoint that aligns with, well, Rimu, in the code itself.
Yes it’s disappointing that an “anarchist” instance is Pie(in-the-sky)fed. Like I want to not punch left but the two anarchist instances of which I’m aware do that.
Is Piefed even nominally anarchist, seems like it’s pretty explicitly liberal “moderate” (which is to say, far right)
This is the funny part, anarchists and liberals never actually follow anything they preach in practice. They’ll screech about Marxists being authoritarian, but happily do the exact things they denounce in their own spaces. It just exposes the lack of intellectual integrity on their part. Marxists understand the need for censorship and suppressing destructive capitalist and fascist views. So, we don’t need to twist ourselves into pretzels to justify ourselves.
Piefed is just liberal, but there are anarchist Piefed instances like Anarchist.nexus (which I actually think is pretty decent and is federated with Lemmygrad.ml, which is cool).
Honestly might push Anarchist.nexus onto dbzer0 if it keeps up, who knows.
Nah they said they’d just keep forking it and remove what they don’t like.
Which to me sounds painful but 🤷
TBF migrating a userbase and its content to another platform is very hard.
Lmao
Communists aren’t opposed to censorship unilaterally
The issue is that there are no moderators on .ml like the communists you’re describing here.
Joining piefed was an easy decision, after being at the receiving end of .ml moderation.
How is that relevant to the topic at hand, which is baking political opinions into a platform’s codebase?
Lemmy.ml the instance isn’t Lemmy the software platform, and there are plenty of Lemmy instances out there that align with your bog-standard imperial core political sensibilities.
The issue is that the Lemmy.ml moderators are largely communists and you got censored for spouting fascist views and disinformation.
The issue is the complete acceptance of authoritarianism, and the inability to accept criticism of same.
Reflexively shouting fascist in the face of criticism of authoritarianism just falls dead on the floor to me.
“Authoritarianism” is not a thing. All states wield authority, what distinguishes them above all is in which class’s interests, and this is determined by which class is in control of the state. You weren’t reflexively called a fascist, you were called a fascist after dehumanizing ethnicities of people whose state you opposed, and the fact that you support neo-Nazi groups.
“Authoritarianism” is not a thing.
There is no need for me to read beyond this, so I didn’t.
Lol. Not even hiding it
Incredible display of censoring your eyes from views you don’t agree with.
blah blah blah, no one needs to delete your comment I will go ahead and block your account and your so I never have to read your worthless text ever again
I will go ahead and block your account and your so I never have to read your worthless text ever again
Of course you will. The irony of posting a censorship meme, and then censoring an opposing view will be completely lost on you.
Waaaaah, not paying attention to me when I throw a tantrum is censorship
It goes like this.
Someone drops a blatant turd of a post somewhere on .ml.
I make a comment pointing out what’s wrong with the post.
Heated exchange, I get called fash or westoid or whatever else is supposed to feel like a slur.
I refuse to back down, and then all of my comments get deleted.
The tantrum is the deletion of comments that don’t bend the knee.
The tantrum is the deletion of comments that don’t bend the knee.
You know your modlog is public right?
Feels like they’re bragging about how terrible it is
Seems that way definitely.
It sounds like you’re looking for some sort of gotcha.
I stand by everything that I’ve said.
No I just think racism and ableism is bad and not something I’d personally brag about.
Heated exchange
I refuse to back down
How people with no introspection describe throwing a tantrum after being dunked on
Me: Stalin was awful and killed lots of people.
[Comment gets deleted]
Oh no, I’ve been dunked on!
You and I have very different views on what it means to be dunked on.
Your mod log continues to be public.
You’re on an instance that is defederated from communist instances, effectively censoring them. Either admit that you’re fine with censorship in general but don’t like it being used against you, or move to an instance that is more broadly federated.
You’re on an instance that is defederated from communist instances, effectively censoring them.
Fact: I was aware of the existence of piefed, but gave zero fucks about it. The specific reason that I looked further into piefed, was some .ml user chirping them in a software update announcement.
I saw that, reflected on how I’ve been treated by .ml moderators, and signed up.
Either admit that you’re fine with censorship in general but don’t like it being used against you, or move to an instance that is more broadly federated.
I’m on piefed specifically because of how .ml is moderated, and because it causes consternation in people who insist that Stalin was a really good guy.
There are less censored Piefed instances than Piefed.world, you chose one that censored views you disagree with. Either way, that’s an odd way to choose software. Plus, Piefed.world is still federated with Lemmy.ml. Honestly, if Piefed.world treats you without censorship, that says more about them considering your history of neo-Nazi support and dehumanization of ethnicities.
As for Stalin, he was the leader of the world’s first federation of socialist states during their most tumultuous period, and did a good job in doing so. Far better than contemporaries like Churchill, Truman, and FDR, not to mention Hitler. He made mistakes and errors, there’s no denying that, but he was certainly on the right side of history.
