"Well, if I were him I’d want to debate me too. He’s got nothing else to do.”

  • Cosmic Cleric@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    But when conservatives have their own big, invasive, and professionalized hatchet men teams, there’s a legit fear among Democrats that they will be more likely on the receiving end.

    Which is why the Democrats should have put someone else up for re-election, someone who can defend themself well.

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        9 months ago

        No sitting president has ever lost their party’s primary

        LBJ dropped out of his party’s primary, and although it was far too soon to say if he would have lost, he faced strong opposition in New-Politic anti-war candidates Kennedy and McCarthy. He is on record as worrying about the primary and it doubtless played a big part of his dropping out

        Kennedy of course got shot, and the more conservative Humphrey ended up with the nomination over McCarthy (or late entry McGovern), sparking riots at the DNC. The situations and systems were quite different, but i think there’s some parallels with Biden/Clinton vs Bernie there

        I think Truman also dropped out rather than fight a tough primary, but i don’t know so much about that

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        9 months ago

        No sitting president has ever lost their party’s primary. What’s more—and not surprisingly—the ones that have faced significant primary challenges have gone on to lose in the general.

        These days do not seem like normal times to do comparisons with past election successes. Politics seems very different these days, versus how it was in the past.

        It’s one hell of a risk play the Democratic party is doing, not just to their own power as a party, but to the country overall with electing someone elderly that can handle four more years of leadership. There’s a very real chance he could lose as well as win.