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      ah so he’s duplicitous scum like so many national front->re[whatever] before and since and this is just the latest mutation of his shit-eating grift against humankind. who’d’ve known.

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    I call this “soft” climate change denialism because a lot of liberals either resort to this kind of fatalism or they believe that some green “wounderwaffen” or “wounder-tech” like carbon capture, lab grown meat, AI or whatever is going to save us all deus ex machina style last minute by a huge push from all investors/the invisible hand and “one of the good” billionaires.

    In practice this is no different from “hard” climate change denilasim.

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      It’s definitely on that 5 point scale of denialism:

      1. It’s not happening

      2. It’s happening but it’s natural/we don’t now why

      3. It’s happening but it’s good actually

      4. It’s happening and there’s nothing we can do to fix it

      5. It’s happening and it’s our fault and there’s nothing we should do

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      100% agree. Veering back and forth between ‘The world will survive so who cares’ and the wonderwaffen one size fits all fix is all they have left. Point out ‘the world surviving’ is just reducing it to salty water and amino acid sludge, not some edenic moment where the deer and foxes reclaim the cities and they just shut off entirely

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      they believe that some green “wounderwaffen” or “wounder-tech” like carbon capture, lab grown meat, AI or whatever is going to save us all deus ex machina style last minute by a huge push from all investors/the invisible hand and “one of the good” billionaires.

      Even if such wonder tech is invented, it will be in China and western countries will do everything possible to stop on behest of their oligarchs.

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    At least they’re getting a bit more honest.

    “But consooming less is too HAAAARD! I love my treats! Can’t we just be deniers? It’s easier for me!”

    And they lecture us about toughening up.

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      Does net zero even require consuming less? It seem like someone complaining that nobody will have food if we ban single-use plastics, as if we can’t work around it, but it wouldn’t be as profitable for the shareholders.

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        Reducing is a huge part of bringing down emissions. It doesn’t have to look like austerity, it can be like using stuff that would otherwise go to waste, Buying things that last, and when you do get plastic, even just using them for more than their single use helps a lot. For example, I’m bringing my lunch in a takeout box I got once into work.

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        It means no mineral carbon that can’t be to 100% recycled. On a survivable timeline that’s almost certainly less consumption for a century or so. But survivable timeline doesn’t appear to be much of a priority.

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        Consuming less goods also doesn’t only mean having less use value. It can also mean having items with use value which lasts longer (and have higher quality), taking care of things, and sharing useful things more. Collective kitchens, ride shares, public transport, libraries for sharing various stuff like books or tools and collective forms of entertainment. We could in many ways live better by other metrics than maximizing the tonnage of thrash we burn through

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    You dealing with hotter temperatures isn’t the elephant in the room you absolute jackass. You might be able to adapt, but it’s destroying the fucking ecosystem and will obliterate the ability to cultivate crops. And that’s putting aside the poor animals that are going to go extinct because our fucking species can’t limit itself for one fucking second.

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    googled this idiot’s name and found this article from 2004 where he peddles typical climate denialist talking points. Very predictable. We’re going to see this a lot - these people would go from “climate change isn’t real” to “it’s real but it’s too late to do anything about it”

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      There’s a Yes Minister clip they’ve been using as a blueprint since the 80s (well, before that too, but the clip exemplified it)

      Bernard Woolley: What if the Prime Minister insists we help them?
      Appleby: Then we follow the four-stage strategy.
      Woolley: What’s that?
      Sir Richard Wharton: Standard Foreign Office response in a time of crisis. In stage one we say nothing is going to happen.
      Appleby: Stage two, we say something may be about to happen, but we should do nothing about it.
      Wharton: In stage three, we say that maybe we should do something about it, but there’s nothing we can do.
      Appleby: Stage four, we say maybe there was something we could have done, but it’s too late now.

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      i’ve been joking about the murmansk riviera for years, but the jokes are less and less jokes and more and more a real forecast

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      These photos of rural England/Scotland genuinely look like hell. Literally just turned it all flat so the meat animals can graze. There used to be a thick forest (that would be burning rn)!

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        Wow, this map is making me even angrier than I thought I needed to be. What an unbelievable fucking waste of space.

        I have a vivid dream of taking this wretched isle in a firm hand, banning all animal products and just shooting the first thousand people who complain. Along with many other changes.

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          There’s also something to be said about the stereotypical image of Ireland (similar to this but with dairy) where it’s plainly a result of British colonization and the ongoing occupation of the north. Anglo moment.

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    That is not how it works, mediterranean climate will just not exist anymore. I hate these people, 2026 and these shitheads are still doing the “it is just going to be warmer, it will be nice!”

    Also, look at amid slowdown

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    Are these people capable of second-order thinking? They seem to think that the only thing that’s going to happen is that the mid summer weather is going to get worse.