• SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org
    551·
    6 天前

    I don’t pay and don’t get ads either. Stop being a sucker. Yes, I am fine with them going bankrupt if everyone would do that.

      • Dae@pawb.social
        3·
        5 天前

        Agreed! I’ll take it a step further that they need to face bankruptcy over this!

        The problem is that even if everyone paid for YouTube’s subscription, they’d raise the price, slash the features, and reintroduce ads unless you pay for an even more expensive tier. Just like Netflix.

        Why? Because advertising companies will always be giving more money to YouTube than the users. The only thing paying YouTube gets you is the Sunk Cost fallacy.

    • LaLuzDelSol@lemmy.world
      24·
      5 天前

      Fair enough, but dont whine when Youtube circumvents adblockers and starts injecting ads directly into video streams. You did this.

      • green_link@lemmy.world
        2·
        5 天前

        TV over the air had ads to pay for the TV shows and channels you watched because they couldn’t really secure the signal they sent out. but also it wasn’t really supposed to be secure in the first place. but TV production was expensive. so you got commercials, ads and sponsors when you watched.

        then cable TV came about. cable TV was supposed to be ad free because you were paying. but then they would have had to fill in for segments when over the air TV was showing ads so instead of that they just showed the same ads and got paid for it. that’s double dipping.

  • green_link@lemmy.world
    10·
    5 天前

    not defending youtube or ads in general, but technically the ad companies don’t pay unless the ad is viewed/served, or only pay depending on how much of the ad is viewed. they aren’t double dipping like this is implying.

    youtube is only getting paid if an ad is shown, and depending on the duration of the ad only for the duration of the ad that is shown to the end user. for like s skippable ad, for the first 30 seconds you can’t skip they get paid for that 30 seconds, but if ithe ad is longer say a minute, but the skip button appears after 30 and you press the skip button youtube only gets paid for the 30seconds the ad was displayed. if you don’t skip then they get paid for the amount of time the ad was shown.

    if you pay for youtube premium, then they don’t show ads, they don’t get paid for ads not shown. but that’s why you are giving them money. to compensate for the “lost revenue” they aren’t getting from ads.

    and for things like adblockers, the ads are not served therefore don’t qualify for being billed and youtube doesn’t get paid. and youtube pays channels based on performance of ads being displayed, and that’s why a lot of channels have both ad spots and sponsor segments. that and youtube doesn’t pay real good for ad revenue unless you are a huge channel.

    and then sponsor block skips sponsor sections for you and some sponsors/channels don’t care the contract was do a sponsor segment and those contracts are outside of youtube itself so youtube doesn’t get paid for them, that’s why there isn’t a sponsor skip action when you pay for premium. but i fear sponsors will corrupt and start doing contracts where they track how many times a segment was viewed and pay out based on that metric too.

    • Smoogs@lemmy.worldEnglish
      21·
      5 天前

      During an ad break you need another ad break.

      Ray(ad break)cons

      Now that is some Quality content so worth the money.

  • huppakee@lemmy.world
    226·
    6 天前

    Not to be that guy, but it’s actually Companies pay the running cost of YouTube (plus a little bit of pocket money for the creators whose videos you watch) so you can watch free of charge, in exchange for this they get to show you a video. I don’t like Google either and rob them of their income by using an adblocker. Though if nobody pays and nobody watches ads they might find even worse ways to pay the bills.

    • endlesseden@pyfedi.deep-rose.orgEnglish
      1·
      3 天前

      *Companies pay Alphabet a running premium for advertising spots on all of their platforms, and for user data. youtube gives 1/300th of that to creators who make the content that draws traffic.

      then YouTube steals your browsing history, advertising data on PC and app. as well as recently spoken words while using Thier app.

      then they charge 3x what they pay to creators to disable some of the ads on YouTube, while still doing all the rest.

    • Vespair@lemmy.zipEnglish
      151·
      5 天前

      Google wants to get paid thrice for YouTube. That’s not okay.

      I’ll consider allowing ads when they stop harvesting and selling data - until then, that data is my payment.

      They don’t get to show ads, sell our data, and charge a subscription. I’m tired of paying twice for shit.

      • huppakee@lemmy.world
        3·
        5 天前

        Yeah Google sucks, didn’t want to defend them but the business model in general. Companies should not be allowed to sell data. Them collecting your data as part of their ad business is one thing, but selling it shouldn’t be allowed imo.

        • Vespair@lemmy.zipEnglish
          4·
          5 天前

          This. If you want to collect analytics for in house decision making, merchandising, whatever, I say go for. But as soon as you start selling that data or the conclusions thereof, it becomes a currency, and if I’m paying that currency you better not be asking me for another.

      • Warl0k3@lemmy.world
        101·
        6 天前

        Well, yeah. Companies pay youtube to show you ads on their platform; this lets youtube stay free for users while still being an unbelievably expensive operation (not debating the ethics just - that’s how the funding works). As an alternative, youtube gives you the option of paying them directly to buy the space ads would normally have bid on, and then blank it out. They get a steady monthly revenue stream, even if it’s less than they’d be making by selling that ad space, and you get no ads.

    • tidderuuf@lemmy.world
      6·
      6 天前

      What like… Charge influencers to upload their shit videos? Oh sweet baby Jesus, that would be amazing!

  • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
    4·
    5 天前

    why pay ads when you can just block them? doesnt make sen to pay 10+$ for it, also i heard they want to increase the price and add in ads in the lower subscriptions anyways.

    • Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone
      61·
      5 天前

      Because content isn’t free to produce? Because I want to support creators and can’t be half assed to donate to every individual random patron?

  • Smoogs@lemmy.worldEnglish
    4·
    5 天前

    Also: “and this is who is sponsoring me to show my shit on YouTube”

    My fave is when there’s an ad break during an ad.