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    I’ll happily vote for the Dems candidates if stop supporting genocide and start doing what the people want. If they want to play republican-lite again they can lose again. If you dont like that, centrists and zionists, I dont particularly care. But the dems will earn my vote from now on. They have taught us all that if we dont demand, they will do zero to represent us-- they will just cash bribe checks. No more of that.

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      They have taught us all that if we dont demand, they will do zero to represent us

      Why would they listen to your demands, you just said you don’t vote. Your demands literally don’t matter anymore.

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        oh I vote every election for the past 35 years but if its a choice between one war criminal or another, you bet your ass I leave that entry on the ballot blank. I dont support war criminals.

        Dems need to learn that they cant cash AIPAC checks and win. People like you just sabotage the system by voting for them no matter what they do-- you stand for nothing and you make room for the bribery to exist. The voter problem here is you.

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              It sucks that the invented reality you came up with hurt your feelings, but that’s not my problem.

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            You mean the thing that got rigged in 2016 or the thing where the popular candidate got ratfucked in 2020 or the thing that we didnt have in 2024?
            Or do you mean the thing we had in 2012 and 2008 with a candidate who ran on a faux-leftist platform he then abandoned? Or do you mean the thing in 2004 where mainstream media and the DNC conspired to run the popular anti-war candidate into the ground over a nothing-burger or the thing in 2000 where the democratic party showed it was completely unwilling to stand up against blatant election fraud?

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              Yep! That thing. The thing that is the alternative to Trump.

              Do you prefer Trump? Do you prefer the 2.8B in bombs we just sent to Israel?

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                Right, so the thing that can’t be done? You just agreed that the primaries are rigged, so voting for progressives do not matter.
                Sweet, so we agree, in your worldview there is nothing to do. Might as well lie down and give up, the way you view the world.
                You can either vote for democrats, which you’ve agreed is pointless because the democrats that aren’t just republicans get ratfucked, or you can do nothing at all - in your worldview. Both of the actions has the same end result, following the line of reasoning that has been established with you through this comment section.

                On top of all that: Your whole argument is built on a false dilemma and a misrepresentation of what leftists are arguing.

                Do you prefer the 2.8B in bombs we just sent to Israel?

                Democrat voters the second they’re not the ones bombing brown people: genocide is bad, actually.

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                  No, my whole argument is based on the reality that option b is trump, and option c does not exist. You can convince me that democrats are barely better than trump, sure. Option b is trump. Barely better than trump is better than trump. Barely, but better.

                  I mean, if you like trump, then just own it. Wear that maga hat proud.

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        4 days ago

        Why would they listen to yours, if you will vote for them regardless of policy position?

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        Oh sure. Because no one ever says “we need to increase turnout”. You’re a moron